Frontier, you sound very much like someone who approached this job only hearing the things he wanted to hear. Now that it didn't work out for you, we should be the ones to fix your problem. Sorry, it's not gonna happen. You're going to be an F/O here until such time as you have enough seniority to bid and hold a Captain's line. QUOTE]
My, my, the Emperor has no clothes.
Gee, and here I thought that the WHOLE POINT of having a union was to "fix problems" of the membership/brotherhood/pilot group and better their situation. Doesn't Frontier (and 349 others with more on the way) qualify? It's quite telling that you referred to Frontier's situation as "your problem", rather than accept his part of the same low-wage contract as "our problem". Hey Griz, when YOU joined the company, didn't you help enable, by virtue of accepting them, the same low wages he's now having to deal with?
So a few mere months ago you helped rally the troops to what you said then was a noble cause, and successfully used bid-manuevering as a tool to better the condition of your lowest-paid. Now you refuse to even consider picking up that very same successful tool, and chastize your junior member here as if he's promoting something ridiculous even though it's only 1 seat that needs to go junior.
So I guess if you didn't think of using it, it's different? Or are your new SU leaders simply too busy sitting around circle-jerking yourselves into a frenzy over "important" courtroom, tangental issues like NJI (which does nothing to better your condition), so have no time left over to provide the leadership it takes to persuade the rank and file that another salary-win for your lowest-paid brothers is another win for all?
Call me crazy, but perhaps a repeated show of such unity every time the opportunity presents itself...one that forces the company to pay captain's wages to practically everyone who comes on the property....would go a long way towards convincing them that they might as well write into a new contract those same higher wages for your newbies.
Frontier is complaining about pay, not obtaining a captain's seat out of seniority as you imply. Pay. The same complaint you have/had. His complaint regarding being sold a bill of goods and empty promises is exactly the same one that inspired the formation of SU, and anyone getting hired there since the Teamsters came on property accepted the low-pay in part based on the predictions of imaginary contracts. Does this include you?
Gee Griz, you sound very much like someone who approached your job only hearing things you wanted to hear, and even a failed attempt at persuading your rank and file to repeat the victory on the wage front is better that sh1tting on your own junior members for merely suggesting it.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
