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Can anyone help me with a phone number for HR at Atlas/Polar? I don't know if it will help to try to talk with someone at the company. Also any tips on what I have to do to get in on these upcoming interviews? Thanks for any help you can give me!!
 
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Return to Flight Crew positions [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=+1]First Officer - B747

Date Posted: Thursday, August 05, 2004

Location: International Bases

Preffered Qualifications:

* 3,500 hours total time in airplanes
* 1,000 hours turbine PIC in jets
* 2,500 hours of Turbo Jet
FAA Airline Transport Pilot (ATP)Certification
* Current FAA Class 1 Medical Certificate
* FCC Radio License
* Legally authorized to work in the USA
* Current Passport
* Must be able to pass 10-year background check
and a DOT pre-employment drug screen
* Glass cockpit experience preferred





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Thanks!!!

Thanks a lot guys!! As I said any help is very much appreciated. I really do want to work for Atlas/Polar!
 
BusterHymen said:
* 3,500 hours total time in airplanes
* 1,000 hours turbine PIC in jets
* 2,500 hours of Turbo Jet

Are the 2500 TJ a hard requirement? How about TProp time?

What other bases do they have outside the US? Is it possible to commute, for instance from Rome, Hong Kong or Hawaii? How about a base in FRA, now that they do all the lift for LHC?

Thanks for some info. :cool:
 
Hiring requirements

Guys, Polar and Atlas hiring requirements are not etched in stone. I know for a fact that the last few classes have had pilots with regional experience and substantially less time than those advertised.. These requirements are what the company would like to see, but in no means a hard minimum. Keep plucking away and best of luck to all interested.
 
B-atch said:
Guys, Polar and Atlas hiring requirements are not etched in stone. I know for a fact that the last few classes have had pilots with regional experience and substantially less time than those advertised.. These requirements are what the company would like to see, but in no means a hard minimum. Keep plucking away and best of luck to all interested.

Thanks for the info! :)

How about the bases outside the US? Can you be homebased or commute in Europe or Asia?
 
Polar's only crew base (at the present time) is JFK.. Atlas however, has a Stanstead, England base..Not sure how they go about providing transportation to and from the Stanstead base. Atlas also has gateway basing...Good Luck:-)
 
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I was at the school house last week. Latest rumour is 120 pilots to be hired by late Summer. Good luck Guys/Gals!
 
Whale Rider said:
I was at the school house last week. Latest rumour is 120 pilots to be hired by late Summer. Good luck Guys/Gals!

Thanks! Is that Atlas or Polar, or both of them combined?

And what would those Atlas Gateways be?
 
Yes its all combined now. Make your chioce JFK (Polar) or STN (Atlas).:D
 
Do they have a common payscale as well? Last I looked there were two quite different scales posted on airlinepilotpay.com

Previous poster mentioned Atlas has gateway basing. What airports are considered gateways? Do you get paid for the deadhead leg from the gateway to wherever your trip actually starts?
 
You get gateway basing for any base OTHER than STN. If you get hired on the Atlas side and get based in STN you are on your own getting back and forth.
 
I have an Atlas scheduling question. I have heard that Atlas tends to assign days off even when you are out of domicile. (i.e. "Your going to sit for 3 days in Sri Lanka, we'll count that as 3 out of your 12 days off.") So, in theory, you could be on the road indefinetly. How true is this? And if it is true, how often does it happen?

Thanks
 
waterskipilot said:
I have an Atlas scheduling question. I have heard that Atlas tends to assign days off even when you are out of domicile. (i.e. "Your going to sit for 3 days in Sri Lanka, we'll count that as 3 out of your 12 days off.") So, in theory, you could be on the road indefinetly. How true is this? And if it is true, how often does it happen?

That's completely untrue. You may sit for 3 days somewhere but they don't count toward your off days.

However, having your off days taken away can and WILL happen. The company can take up to 4, and they excercise that right frequently. 13 days off turns in to 9, take away another day on each end to commute to and from STN or where ever you end up and you're down to 7.

Make sure you can live with it if you decide to come to Atlas.
 
That's completely untrue. You may sit for 3 days somewhere but they don't count toward your off days.

However, having your off days taken away can and WILL happen. The company can take up to 4, and they excercise that right frequently. 13 days off turns in to 9, take away another day on each end to commute to and from STN or where ever you end up and you're down to 7.

Make sure you can live with it if you decide to come to Atlas.


Ok, that's something I can live with. How well are you compensated on those days taken away? That would be a big quality of life issue. Thanks again.
 
From what I have heard, it is much better to be on the Polar side, if given the choice. They only have a 16 day work month, and can only extend you for 3 days without your permission. The awesome thing about that is, when you are extended.... you get 2 extra pay hours the first day, 4 hours the second day, and six hours the third day. This all goes above the monthly guarantee. You also get full flight hour pay for those extended days, and that also goes above guarantee. I also understand that if for some reason you are kept out more than the 3 days extra for whatever reason, you get 12 extra hours a day as long as you are out plus flight pay. In other words, IF you are extended you are WELL paid for it....and you don't have to live in STN.

I am not sure about the Atlas side and I don't really have any contacts there since I was not in the 89th. ;)
 
OK, next Question:
Who and at what stage of the interview process is it decided who goes to Polar(JFK) and who goes to Atlas (STN)? Also, how is the equipment type decided? The requirement blurb says "glass cockpit experience preferred" - what does that really mean?
How do most Atlas pilots commute between the US and STN and how difficult is that to do? Also, with the weak dollar and expensive European cost of living, how do the pilots find paying almost TWICE as much for everyday things - just because they happen to be based there?
These seem to be all QOL issues that may make a difference to some folks.
 
b757driver said:
OK, next Question:
Who and at what stage of the interview process is it decided who goes to Polar(JFK) and who goes to Atlas (STN)? Also, how is the equipment type decided? The requirement blurb says "glass cockpit experience preferred" - what does that really mean?
How do most Atlas pilots commute between the US and STN and how difficult is that to do? Also, with the weak dollar and expensive European cost of living, how do the pilots find paying almost TWICE as much for everyday things - just because they happen to be based there?
These seem to be all QOL issues that may make a difference to some folks.

I am going to leave the whole STN thing alone...since I am not very familiar with it. Maybe someone else can chime in about it.

As far as getting Atlas vs. Polar or the Classic vs. -400 ... they interview people and put them in a pool as far as I can tell. Then, they pull people out of the pool based strictly on staffing requirements. It is a total crap shoot as to what position you will be offered I have been told. It is based on where they need people at the time.

I have also heard that the last new hire group to get STN as a base was able to bid back to the states within 7 months. Can anyone verify this?
 
Furloughfodder you are correct on the work month of 16 days @ PO as well as the 3 day extension. I would just like to add that the 3 day extension ONLY applies to Reserves. As a line holder you only owe them your footprint, which makes it even nicer :):)
 
are there any travel bennies for the family with ATLAS (ID90, travel on co A/C)? Also can you ship your stuff, to say england, on company A/C for discount or free?
 
As far as pay for work on involuntary off days goes, you get paid at your daily rate, plus any block hours, then there are some over-rides depending on how many days they take 125%, 150%, etc. Personally, I'd rather have the off day.

On the STN issue, I'll try to be specific about that because there was a lot of mis-information about it before I came here and everybody in my newhire class got a suprise when we got online.

There are three groups of pilots (more than that acually, but that's another whole can of worms). One group has Gateway travel and gets a positive space ticket to and from their doorstep everytime they go to or from work. The second group has a "travel bank". They get allocated a certain amount of money to use on airline tickets/hotels to cover their expenses getting to and from work. Lastly, the third group, of which you will be as a new hire, get nothing. You're on your own to jumpseat over to Europe. You can go to London (insanely expensive even without the exchange rate) and get a positive space ticket to where ever your pattern originates from, or jumpseat directly there. I personally try to avoid London.

As far as all the new hires bidding out of STN after 7 months, that's not true. A lot were able to, but not all.

All that being said, Atlas is a place of stark contrasts. Aircraft is great (400 anyway...wink wink), crews are good for the most part, hotels are great. You will see the entire world and experience a whole new type of flying. I personally prefer this to the constant up and down day in day out regional flying. On the down side, quality of life leaves a lot to be desired. If you have a family you like being around or any important outside interests which require a lot of your time, I would seriously weigh your options.

Things may get better with the Polar merger (I'm personally optimistic) or they might not. It's a crap shoot, but I guess everything is in this industry right now.
 
What are some of the destinations out of Stansted? Are all positions out of Stansted on the 400? What sort of housing options are available out of Stansted (I know it is BLOODY expensive regardless)? When is the Polar/Atlas full merger expected? Just curious.
 
I would just like to thank every one for responding to my thread. I have found out a great many things about Atlas/Polar and still think it is the place for me. Hopefully I'll see some of you there in the future although I haven't heard anyhting yet. I am not trying to bug them to much as I don't want to get on anyones bad side. If any of you Atlas/Polar guys are near the Melbourne, FL area I'd love to pick your brain more about the companies and it'll be on me. Take care and keep the good info coming.

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I just had breakfast with a 400 driver who told me that Polar is 35 F/Os short for next months bid.....Sounds like a bunch of hiring coming up...Keep the faith and update you'r stuff on a regular basis:-)
 
B-atch said:
I just had breakfast with a 400 driver who told me that Polar is 35 F/Os short for next months bid.....Sounds like a bunch of hiring coming up...Keep the faith and update you'r stuff on a regular basis:-)

I also heard the same. The interview machine should be at cruise speed over the next few months. Also heard something about 6 to 8 EX-United 747-400's to be converted into Special Frieghters and put online. True??? Only time will tell.
 
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Commuting to England would be kind of tough....

But for the opportunity to fly a 747-400 I'd pretty much commute to Rigel 7 (trek-speak)

BTW, according to Airline Pilot Pay (which is now at http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/) Atlas has roughly 3 times as many a/c as Polar. Does this mean a higher likelihood of being assigned at Atlas class?

Also, how is that merger going?

Updating on a regular basis and still hopeful.
 
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GogglesPisano said:
BTW, according to Airline Pilot Pay (which is now at http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/) Atlas has roughly 3 times as many a/c as Polar.

I don't think that number is correct. Maybe combined with Polar and counting the ones parked. According to Airfleets Air Atlanta, Air Atlanta Europe and Polar operate 31 active 747.

Maybe someone more familiar with the actual numbers can chime in?
 

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