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The best in the biz period. Glad I got to share a few years there.
 
Very sad. It doesn't mean they won't restructure themselves and come back. ATA does have some profitable routes and lucrative flying to be had, charters etc... I hope their employees go with the aircraft.

What I'm worried about is....who is next?? This is definetely a wake up call to Fed Gov. Next comes high ticket prices and less people traveling and going on vacations. This is not good for the economy.
 
400ADude said:
Very sad. It doesn't mean they won't restructure themselves and come back. ATA does have some profitable routes and lucrative flying to be had, charters etc...
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They did... lost their government contract, and that was their bread and butter.

Same thing happened to us at Express One. We lost the FedEx USPS contract and what was left wasn't enough to sustain the business. 40% of the operation accounted for 60% of the revenue, meaning the other aircraft were operated at a loss while they tried to gain market share. Ugly.

I hope their employees go with the aircraft.
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One can hope, but having just emerged from bankruptcy a little less than 2 years ago doesn't bode well. Liquidation looks pretty imminent. Can't believe it... 3 carriers in 3 days. :(

What I'm worried about is....who is next?? This is definetely a wake up call to Fed Gov. Next comes high ticket prices and less people traveling and going on vacations. This is not good for the economy.
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I don't think anyone else is going to liquidate for at least several months, but I think this is going to spur consolidation.

Ticket prices will definitely be on the rise, capacity will shrink, which is really what's needed to happen for some time now. Unfortunately, the by-product of that is unemployment for many. Been there. Twice. I feel for them,,,

The good news is that several fractionals are still hiring, and will maintain growth for at least a while, unless the recession turns into a depression.

There's jobs to be had, although from everything I hear about ATA, it probably won't be the same thing.
 
I was very honored and fortunate to fly with some of the finest aviators, and just downright good people during my eight years at ATA.

Good luck,

Brad
 
Made many trips to the sandbox with you guys. Never so sad to get off an airplane or happy to get on one coming home. Always great flights with fantastic crews. All the best to all ATA employees.
 
So what happens to Southwest's codeshare agreement. I guess Southwest cannot offer flights to Hawaii now via ATA?
 
Total bummer! That makes two of my former employers out of business in the same week! (Skyway and ATA)

Good luck to all... it was fun while it lasted.
 
Flew at ATA for 2 years and saw the world on the 757. At the time, a great place to work. An awesome bunch of guys. I wish them the best.
 
And there she goes, trashing the good vibe.

Don't you have some boxes to go fly? ;)

edit: omg, I just saw that you're preggers. I've done it now, insulted the hormonal mommy-to-be. :D Congrats, you're gonna love it!
 
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Good riddance.

ATA wasn't all smiles and sunshine. Most corrupt group I ever worked for.

The best moved on to greener pastures years ago.
 
Cathaywannabe? and you work for Netjets? or is that just an old screen name you've kept, 'cause I can't imagine leaving NJA for Cathay. :puke:
 
Lear70 said:
And there she goes, trashing the good vibe.

Don't you have some boxes to go fly? ;)

edit: omg, I just saw that you're preggers. I've done it now, insulted the hormonal mommy-to-be. :D Congrats, you're gonna love it!
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I do!

Our little son was born March 27th! :D

Dude, you know me....I gotta trash the good vibe...I wouldn't be Mama Megadeth otherwise. LOL!
 
ATA was probably the only airline that "makes" you stay in Scottsdale, AZ, for 5 weeks during training. In addition, the company has provided a grill and cooler (for cokes) so you can eat properly. Then your IOE is to Maui and back. Then on your first "real" trip you have to deadhead to Shannon, Ireland, and stay there for 2 days. Then you have to go to Cypress for 2 days, then you have to fly home with a quick 24 hr stop in SNN to check up on the beer supply. Then as you cross the Atlantic as a freshly minted FO/IO, the Capt goes to the back leaving you and a 2 yr FO/IO get the plane back to the states. What a great place. To be furloughed from ATA after a couple years is better than never having a chance to work there.
 
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I was very honored and fortunate to fly with some of the finest aviators, and just downright good people during my eight years at ATA.

Good luck,

Brad
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I really enjoyed my time at ATA as well and was privileged to fly as your F/O Brad.

I just got off the phone with a close friend who is still there and woke up this morning to find this on the news. He and I both can't believe it happened like this...the loss of the military flying and sudden shutdown.
 
ATA guys... Wow... You guys have my deepest and most heartfelt condolences. I think it's fair to say, "I know how you feel ;0)"

For what it's worth, we'll all get through this crap. In ten years we'll look back with fond memories of two great airlines that we were privileged enough to ride into oblivion.

Best to all of you guys....

Aloha...
 
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Fun to hit on chicks with too? LOL!

I hear he's still quite the ladies man.....LOL!

Anyways, if you still talk to him...send my condolences....seriously....I don't wish this crap on anyone.
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Talked to him this AM. He's stressing as you might imagine. He has to sell all his toys.

He still speaks highly of you. And, yes, he's jealous of you a little bit.

He'll give the shirt off his back without question.
 
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Talked to him this AM. He's stressing as you might imagine. He has to sell all his toys.

He still speaks highly of you. And, yes, he's jealous of you a little bit.

He'll give the shirt off his back without question.
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WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Are you friggin serious?????
Are you sure we are talking about the same person?
BP???
 
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ATA was probably the only airline that "makes" you stay in Scottsdale, AZ, for 5 weeks during training. In addition, the company has provided a grill and cooler (for cokes) so you can eat properly. Then your IOE is to Maui and back. Then on your first "real" trip you have to deadhead to Shannon, Ireland, and stay there for 2 days. Then you have to go to Cypress for 2 days, then you have to fly home with a quick 24 hr stop in SNN to check up on the beer supply. Then as you cross the Atlantic as a freshly minted FO/IO, the Capt goes to the back leaving you and a 2 yr FO/IO get the plane back to the states. What a great place. To be furloughed from ATA after a couple years is better than never having a chance to work there.
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Perfectly said Burger. Not to mention the "coke" can pyramids. Never forget that can sailing across the pool landing inches away from EE's head. And yes the actual flying. I would take a couple of more furloughs to work there again (okay maybe one more). Hard to find that kind of fun in a job anywhere!!
 
That's harsh...

Dated two pilots along the years.

One is at United, the other at Delta. Met one when I was a flight instructor and she was a student, the other was a new-hire F/O when I was a 4th year CRJ CA.

Both girls made majors while I was still at either a 121 Supplemental or a Regional.

It's just life. Kinda makes me feel bad for the guy - what a pisser when your ex has this great life and you just got kicked in the nuts. Oh well.
 
Hi.

Sorry to hear about ATA. I wanted to go there.

USA Jet is hiring, and we especially need DC-9 guys. Starting pay is $39K/year. If you have the hours, Falcon capt upgrade is about 6 months, and DC-9 capt should come down to about 2 years.

We have two bids out now for DC-9 capt, with only 6 elligible pilots.

If U want a lot of info, PM me.

cliff
GRB
 
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Perfectly said Burger. Not to mention the "coke" can pyramids. Never forget that can sailing across the pool landing inches away from EE's head. And yes the actual flying. I would take a couple of more furloughs to work there again (okay maybe one more). Hard to find that kind of fun in a job anywhere!!
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30 pack of "cokes" at Frys for $14.99 with a Fry's card. Wiffle-ball anyone?
Remember ole' JN?
Him - "You boys sure are up early this morning for a Saturday."
Us- "Nope we're still up from last night. Peshkie's anyone?"
 
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I spent some time on furlough in 06. I collected unemployment from MI and was able to get funding for additional training through the WIA (workers investment act?) I believe it is funded by both state and federal funds. There are some limits on the program, but if you find something that works it seems like a good deal. The phone numbers are sitting around my house if anyone is interested.
 
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WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Are you friggin serious?????
Are you sure we are talking about the same person?
BP???
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I flew with him last summer, you came up......

He and I went through 75 school together (he was my next door neighbor there in PHX), and I was very glad to get to fly with him again on the 73 many years later.

I like him alot. I called him last week with directions to the OAK crew room and he didn't answer. Bastard.
 

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