ATA expanding at MDW--Again

[757jetflier]

A buddy of mine furloughed ATA has been on the property for 7 months now. Maybe your attitude shined through both times. I know plenty of good guys that havent received the call. When I talk to them we can usually pick out an area that may have cost them the job. But with your greater then everyone attitude, it isnt hard to figure out. Go to the interview thinking I am an ATA god, military, typed, can fly circles around any SWA pilot (stupid term but some have used it on this thread) so am hired attitude and you reap your resaults. The regional guys, freight , corp and military pilots that go to the interview thinking I am not better then anyone else, have a better chance. You said it in a previous post you are a pi55ed person. That my friend is very difficult to hide.

Yeah, guess I couldn't sneak through.

You guys miss the point.

Everyone gets on here, postures, struts, and acts like an a**

If every SWA guy on this forum acted like this during an interview, their seniority list would be several thousand short.

I don't know exactly why I wasn't hired, but it wasn't because I duffed the interview.

I do know that SWA was not happy with some ATA guys they had hired, pulled the pref interviews for furloughed guys all about the time frame I interviewed.

No big deal now.

I just don't like hearing all about the big LUVing, happy SWA family crap.

SWA is no different than any other airline past or present.

 

[SWA/FO]

SWA is no different than any other airline past or present.

then why all the attention? why are people that fly freight for a living concern with SWA? Why all the anger towards an average airline for disrespecting (not hiring for lay people)?

Answer: Cus we are not like any other airline. FACT!

 

[capt. megadeth]

then why all the attention? why are people that fly freight for a living concern with SWA?

You are so clueless, it's actually funny.

 

[capt. megadeth]

So the next best thing you can do is to appear on SWA threads and hang with the cool SWA pilots (more cool pilots here, other then the SWA/FO). Lets remember - the SWA/FO has flown freight in the past, but you have never flown more then 20 passengers in your life. Plus you have never flown a beautiful Boeing 737-700.

Oh, let me guess, you have no interest in doing that? Oh, you just like talking about it then on flightinfo.com? You also enjoy telling the SWA/FO and others how bad his Company is or how his job sux, although you have never been here/done that.

imp:

Ha ha...once again....clueless.

If you had a clue, you would know I flew more people than you.

I never said your job sucks, I just hate your company, that's all. You can insist that I am bitter because I didn't win a job with Southwest but that, my friend, I am over. There are many other reasons but you obviously never read my posts, you just see what you want to see. But that's ok....whatever.

Notice too....this is an ATA thread loser.

 

[757jetflier]

then why all the attention? why are people that fly freight for a living concern with SWA? Why all the anger towards an average airline for disrespecting (not hiring for lay people)?

Answer: Cus we are not like any other airline. FACT!

Fact: SWA is the original LCC.

Fact: LCC's are responsible for the demise of the profession.

Fact: Every airline wants to be like SWA so they undercut each other in a race to the bottom, to the detriment of the profession.

Fact: Airline management salivates at the prospect of hiring pinheads like you who are willing to do anything to fly a shiny jet and crow about it, to the detriment of the profession.

Fact: You're just as full of *hit as the rest of us, but have delusional perceptions of grandeur because you fly for an airline that just happens to be successful for now.

Fact: You somehow feel this is attributable to you.

Fact: Flashback to the late 90's. You may not remeber cuz you were in junior high but, folks were leaving SWA to chase better pay and lifestyle.

Fact: Its such a joy to see you get a rise out of all this. Go back to your FOM shiny jet boy!

 

[runwayjockey]

Duuuude, wahy yoo bee speeking in da turd person all da time? Its freeekig eerietayting!

Come on, like the "Idiotic-Bonics" are much better!

 

[atafan]

I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend.

Tonight at 10 pm SWA pilots were going to throw a pillow case party for SWA/FO because he's making them look bad.

I'm just passing what I heard not sure if it's true.

 

[SWA/FO]

Fact: LCC's are responsible for the demise of the profession.

hey 757..this might be why you didn't get hired TWICE. They can see through this $hit during the process.

 

[757jetflier]

hey 757..this might be why you didn't get hired TWICE. They can see through this $hit during the process.

Great! Double bonus for me. I don't have to go to work 4 or 5 times a month, I only have to go out once a month. And, where I go to I'm guaranteed not to see your stupid a**.

Yeah my attitude may suck, But only to SWA.

I'm happy and smiling doin' what I'm doin' and who I'm doin' it for.
Don't have to brag about them, or defend them OR drink the koolaid from the firehose.

 

[SWA/FO]

Dude, nobody said you were not happy where you are at.

I could care less. Except you cry like a little beeeouch that SWA didn't hire you.

Then 1 day later you come up with different lines altogether, saying that the airline (this average airline) Southwest ruined the industry, but yet you wanted to be part of this company. It might have been for a few weeks but you tried to get a job here and tried to fool everyone in Dallas and they saw through your lying a$$.

So now your on to Plan B, not a bad plan, flying freight, pays good, stable...not a bad plan B to have.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or else you wouldn't bring it up. You had two shots and couldn't even get your $hit together. You tried TWICE for an airline responsible for the destruction of the industry. That makes me laugh. This would definitely hurt your chances if you were running for president.

"Good Company and I wanted a job there, twice, that was before I didn't want a job there and they ruined the industry"

 

[757jetflier]

Dude, nobody said you were not happy where you are at.

I could care less. Except you cry like a little beeeouch that SWA didn't hire you.

Then 1 day later you come up with different lines altogether, saying that the airline (this average airline) Southwest ruined the industry, but yet you wanted to be part of this company. It might have been for a few weeks but you tried to get a job here and tried to fool everyone in Dallas and they saw through your lying a$$.

So now your on to Plan B, not a bad plan, flying freight, pays good, stable...not a bad plan B to have.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Or else you wouldn't bring it up. You had two shots and couldn't even get your $hit together. You tried TWICE for an airline responsible for the destruction of the industry. That makes me laugh. This would definitely hurt your chances if you were running for president.

"Good Company and I wanted a job there, twice, that was before I didn't want a job there and they ruined the industry"

I don't suppose you've ever had a revelation. Desperation makes you think funny things. Makes you want things that maybe you really don't. So I guess maybe SWA saw that and did me a favor. However; What started this whole BS session was your stupid arrogant comment to staple the ATA pilots. It just goes hand in hand with the BS they hand out at SWA HQ. So, I really DO understand why you work there and I don't. But, there are still friends of mine at ATA and on the street from ATA who do want a job there. I hope they don't get your kind of LUV.

 

[SWA/FO]

I don't suppose you've ever had a revelation. Desperation makes you think funny things. Makes you want things that maybe you really don't. So I guess maybe SWA saw that and did me a favor. However; What started this whole BS session was your stupid arrogant comment to staple the ATA pilots. It just goes hand in hand with the BS they hand out at SWA HQ. So, I really DO understand why you work there and I don't. But, there are still friends of mine at ATA and on the street from ATA who do want a job there. I hope they don't get your kind of LUV.

don't worry about me, I'm not involved in hiring or management. Just a line pilot.

was your stupid arrogant comment to staple the ATA pilots.

My stupid comment was in response to a person posting something like "unwanted pilots of ATA". Really though, if it was a buy out you don't think it would be a staple job?

 

[canyonblue]

Fact: LCC's are responsible for the demise of the profession.

No, pilots have done that on their own.

I hate to quote Eleanor Roosevelt but it fits........"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

If every pilot group refused to take a step backwards we would never have this conversation. Unfortunately the easy way out is to take the cuts and blame someone else. Usually it is Southwest, jetBlue, etc. The demise of the profession? Look in the mirror, and don't just get on some message board and pretend you are the greater than thou who was struck down by the LCC's.

 

[bestpilot]

I like you bestpilot. I like the way you talk.

Duuude, I likez ta eet me somma dem taterz and reed flightinfo an likez swill somma dem coool brewskis. Udder den da tranny, dis bee my faveritt place ta bee!!!

Duuude, is da SWA/FO stilll be tryin ta git wit ole Ty Guy'z littel sis?


AWWW YEEAAAHHHH!

 

[Whataburger]

SWA is no different than any other airline past or present.

Yes it is.

 

[mach zero]

ATA was an LCC too so that means that you ,757jetflier, helped cause the demise of the industry as well (according to your definitions).

If you really want to talk about sh#$%y pilot pay lets look at how badly American Trans Air paid its pilots for the majority of its existence. For the longest time, ATA was a stepping stone for many because of the low pay.

You want someone to blame for losing your job at ATA? Try George or John Tague or ATA ALPA and their FE agenda. It's not SWA's fault. They merely took advantage of the situation after the ship was lost.

I get sick and tired of hearing about the so-called anti-ATA agenda that the SWA PD has. They hired me and they have hired many of the fine people I know and worked with over at ATA and they continue to hire them.

 

[GuppyWN]

757flier.

SWA/FO missed out on sensitivity training day but he's not afraid to call a spade a spade. He doesn't mince words.

The very best guy I know in the entire universe got an interview here and didn't get hired. I was sick to my stomach. Couldn't believe it. They saw something they didn't like about him - that day.

On your race to the bottom jab. Yeah. You have not a clue. I made over 150k last year...... as a copilot. I bid at least 18 days off every month. And I'm not a super senior dude. I bid 20% in my domicile. If that's racing to the bottom then git 'er done!

Gup

 

[canyonblue]

You want someone to blame for losing your job at ATA? Try George or John Tague or ATA ALPA and their FE agenda. It's not SWA's fault. They merely took advantage of the situation after the ship was lost.

Speaking of ships, these are the same type of guys who blame the iceberg for sinking the Titanic.

 

[HalinTexas]

First of all, let this die already. It's getting really stupid on all sides. Not worth 6 pages.

Yes, there are many at ATA that are bitter, for a variety of reasons, most are NOT. Most are hopeful something better will come of this, and ATA will thrive.

If anyone should be bitter its me! Me, me me!

I've been turned down three times already! (How embarrassing.) But I'm still trying to get on! Still waiting for yet another chance.

Let this stupid junior high sh!t stop already.

 

[atafan]

I completely agree with HalinTexas!

We have a very small minority at ATA that is bitter but you only see a few that post on here that cry in the mirror everyday. Most everyone I know at ATA has been around the block a few times and have a very balanced view of this messed up industry. We know that who's on top today may not be there tomorrow and the bottom feeders may rise to the top another day, that's the nature of this business.

I have to admit that SWA is different than any other airline I have observed. They seem to just do what they do and the industry morphs around them. They discovered early that when you have a formula that works you stick with it and only tweak it.

The very best guy I know in the entire universe got an interview here and didn't get hired. I was sick to my stomach. Couldn't believe it. They saw something they didn't like about him - that day

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I too have seen the interview process act without common sense, good guys get rejected while the jack*sses got hired. I must say that with regards to SWA and ATA hiring, I've seen really great guys get flamed but I haven't seen one a-hole make it through the process. Without exception, I would have hired every guy that SWA did, seems to work better than any other airline I have seen from my seat far from the action.