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[USCtrojan]

Just got a call from my buddy flying today. He said ASA has CNX'd over 170 flights already today. I don't know how accurate that was, but OURASA is showing 100% completion factor (figures). Reason for the CNX's? Delta is preserving all De-ice fluid for their own airplanes. I'd like to see the spin on how this works out....

Trojan

 

[John Pennekamp]

Just got a call from my buddy flying today. He said ASA has CNX'd over 170 flights already today. I don't know how accurate that was, but OURASA is showing 100% completion factor (figures). Reason for the CNX's? Delta is preserving all De-ice fluid for their own airplanes. I'd like to see the spin on how this works out....

Trojan

Kind of reminds me of the CVG melt down a few years ago.

Glad we know where we rank with Delta. Oh, but "they own every seat in our airplanes".

 

[rightseatjocky]

That is because Delta sucks. You and I know how we are treated when it comes to them and skypest. ASA is the step child to both, but that is ok. I am off for the next 2 months. Delta can do their merger and jerk us around all they want. I am sitting here just laughing at the skypest threads and Vtech that moron.
Yes Vtech, you wouldn't have the flight pay you have if it wasn't for any type of union. People fighting, blood, sweat, tears to get what they need to survive. You skypest morons just leach off people that fight for their rights, better pay and quality of life.
Jerry Atkins would do anything to keep a union off his property. hmm What a winner that guy is, you little puppets just dangling from his little wires.
Skypest can kiss my a$$

 

[goahead]

It's Jerry ATKIN, that's it ATKIN no S for the ten thousandth time.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Does it bother you that Jerry Atkins is spelled wrong? NO $HIT MORON, THAT IS WHY I SPELLED IT LIKE THAT. MUST BE ANOTHER SKYPEST LOSER.

 

[XPOO]

More wise words from the pilot in the RIGHT seat.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Does it bother you that Jerry Atkins is spelled wrong? NO $HIT MORON, THAT IS WHY I SPELLED IT LIKE THAT. MUST BE ANOTHER SKYPEST LOSER.

Don't you think it's a little early in the day to be hitting the bottle?

 

[General Lee]

That is because Delta sucks. You and I know how we are treated when it comes to them and skypest. ASA is the step child to both, but that is ok. I am off for the next 2 months. Delta can do their merger and jerk us around all they want. I am sitting here just laughing at the skypest threads and Vtech that moron.
Yes Vtech, you wouldn't have the flight pay you have if it wasn't for any type of union. People fighting, blood, sweat, tears to get what they need to survive. You skypest morons just leach off people that fight for their rights, better pay and quality of life.
Jerry Atkins would do anything to keep a union off his property. hmm What a winner that guy is, you little puppets just dangling from his little wires.
Skypest can kiss my a$$

How many snow storms does ATL get anyway? One every 3 years? This last Summer was great for us, thanks to very few storms, period. (of course we got a drought) Many pax have been re-routed thru CVG, but the ones that could not had to go through ATL.
Have fun out there.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[John Pennekamp]

How many snow storms does ATL get anyway? One every 3 years? This last Summer was great for us, thanks to very few storms, period. (of course we got a drought) Many pax have been re-routed thru CVG, but the ones that could not had to go through ATL.
Have fun out there.

Bye Bye--General Lee

General, what are your thoughts on Delta's decision to not deice any RJs and save the fluid for mainline?

 

[General Lee]

General, what are your thoughts on Delta's decision to not deice any RJs and save the fluid for mainline?

Well, I wasn't there (I was on this board), so I don't know if what you say is true. I don't know what the procedures are for ASA vs Delta. But, if there was only a set amount, and the mainline flights would have more econmic impact (more pax get stranded in the airport for a cnx flight etc), then I would say use the fluid for as many mainline flights as possible.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[TOOL CRIB]

General, what are your thoughts on Delta's decision to not deice any RJs and save the fluid for mainline?

Are you serious? Are you not seeing plain-as-day logic again Johnny? Or are you just being a brat because you have a keyboard?

 

[Muff-N-Man]

I didn't think this was worth a new thread, but I noticed a subtle change on OurASA. Under Flight Status Inquiry, the Flow tab has a few new options. One is 'Time Zone', and the other is 'Partner', which of course only has DL as an option. Just was curious.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Well, I wasn't there (I was on this board), so I don't know if what you say is true. I don't know what the procedures are for ASA vs Delta. But, if there was only a set amount, and the mainline flights would have more econmic impact (more pax get stranded in the airport for a cnx flight etc), then I would say use the fluid for as many mainline flights as possible.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Very true, but if the RJ's can't leave ATL to go to the small stations and bring in the connecting pax, the international flights will be missing some passengers. So really, it's all intertwined. Delta is still going to have stranded pax and lost revenue. Seems like a shortsighted decision to me.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Are you serious? Are you not seeing plain-as-day logic again Johnny? Or are you just being a brat because you have a keyboard?

*yawn* You're not even making sense anymore.

 

[USCtrojan]

Kind of reminds me of the CVG melt down a few years ago.

Glad we know where we rank with Delta. Oh, but "they own every seat in our airplanes".

I'm just curious how this will spin? Will these CNX's be ASA's fault? How will it go down? Will the media villify ASA again for poor service? Can't hold ASA accountable if Delta doesn't give us the resources to do our jobs.

Trojan

 

[John Pennekamp]

I'm just curious how this will spin? Will these CNX's be ASA's fault? How will it go down? Will the media villify ASA again for poor service? Can't hold ASA accountable if Delta doesn't give us the resources to do our jobs.

Trojan

That part won't make the AJC headline. Here's what will:

"Atlantic Southeast Airlines strands thousands of passengers as flights are cancelled due to a shortage of deice fluid for their airplanes"!

 

[USCtrojan]

That part won't make the AJC headline. Here's what will:

"Atlantic Southeast Airlines strands thousands of passengers as flights are cancelled due to a shortage of deice fluid for their airplanes"!

That's EXACTLY what I mean. That's recoculous.
A better headline would be....."DELTA DIDN'T PLAN FOR THE ADVERSE WEATHER CORRECTLY, STRANDED MILLIONS OF PASSENGERS IN ATL."

Trojan

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Very true, but if the RJ's can't leave ATL to go to the small stations and bring in the connecting pax, the international flights will be missing some passengers. So really, it's all intertwined. Delta is still going to have stranded pax and lost revenue. Seems like a shortsighted decision to me.

Not when you depart ATL after 5pm which is when all this occurred. 95% of those flights after 6pm are overnights. Lots of intl flights.

It's real simple. Cancel a flight with 200 pax or cancel a flight with 50 pax. Now multiply that by 100 flights or so.

 

[FishandFly]

It's Jerry ATKIN, that's it ATKIN no S for the ten thousandth time.

No, it is atkins

 

[John Pennekamp]

Not when you depart ATL after 5pm which is when all this occurred. 95% of those flights after 6pm are overnights. Lots of intl flights.

1. It was happening this morning too.

2. If the planes don't make it to the overnight, the morning flight out is also cancelled. Either way, "valuable" delta customers are being inconvenienced.

It's real simple. Cancel a flight with 200 pax or cancel a flight with 50 pax. Now multiply that by 100 flights or so.

A whopping 60% of Delta code is flown by DCI. That leads me to believe there's almost as many RJs as mainline airplanes. What's the difference between canceling one 76 with 200 people or 4 RJs with 200 people? Oh now I get it... more mainline superiority complex! You're more valuable just because you're mainline!