ASA to still furlough?

[rightseatjocky]

Capt.
Source please?

 

[Tarzan]

What I am curious about is if any FOs that may be affected by this, received any warning letters.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

thirty days notice is all thats required. We'll see how many get to bid for febuary

 

[USCtrojan]

50 notices go out Friday morning, January 2nd

Unfortunately, if SkyWest Inc. is gonna furlough, my feeling is they will furlough ASA first. Hopefully it won't happen at all, but if it does, it will be miniscule. SkyWest is up to 600 pilots overstaffed. Their burden is much higher, but expect to see furloughs there if ASA furloughs. Inc will not furlough the "golden children" while not furloughing the "red headed step child." Inc. will never justify a Union presence, ever. This is the way the game is played and Jerry and Co. are much better at it than any pilot, and virtually anyone else in the Industry.

Trojan

 

[CFI2766]

thirty days notice is all thats required. We'll see how many get to bid for febuary

D@mn. Not good.

Hope this is short.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

When it happens it should be for about 12-18 months. I see a need for people going out the top for a need on the bottom.

 

[1080P]

I see a need for people going out the top for a need on the bottom.

Totally missed it????????

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Majors will need to hire for there to be a need to hire new Rj FO's. DCI is shrinking, plain and simple. More 900's but about a 1 for 2 to 50 seat jets.

 

[flyboyzz1]

600 pilots overstaffed at skywest...come on that isn't right. I thought it was like 200-300.

 

[Papa Woody]

Majors will need to hire for there to be a need to hire new Rj FO's. DCI is shrinking, plain and simple. More 900's but about a 1 for 2 to 50 seat jets.

But the '900 has a Flight Engineer, right?

I mean, how can just 2 guys fly such a big jet?....it isn't safe!

 

[CFI2766]

50 notices go out Friday morning, January 2nd

Any notices go out this morning? I assume not as nothing has been posted, but...

 

[Speedtape]

Any notices go out this morning? I assume not as nothing has been posted, but...

No, you are safe,for now. You can worry again--when the 900's are yanked away and given back to Freedom for a second round of circle-jerking!

 

[ParrotheadGTI]

no news is good news.

hope everyone is somehow able to keep their jobs!

 

[Abernathy]

They're dragging their feet on getting the new seniority list out, so we have to wait and see where we stand in numbers right now.

I was told by a few senior captains that ASA staffs 5.5 crews per airplane--11 pilots per plane: we have 149 airplanes right now. IF we get the 10 900s (and if we really do staff 5.5 per aircraft), this spring, we will, according to this formula, need 1749 pilots. As of the last seniority list, we have 1731 pilots. Now, with people on leave, the small amount of attrition, we have less than 1731.

Without the 10 900s, we are 92 pilots fat.

Assuming we get the airplanes in Spring, I don't see a need to furlough in the way of 100+. If there does happen to be a furlough of just a few months, I'd have to guess 40-50.

 

[Snapperhead]

That formula works great; except, what if we only use 5 crews per aircraft instead of 5.5? Also, what do you think will be the staffing number if Pref Bid comes online? I can guess it will be less than 5 per aircraft IMHO.

 

[CFIT]

That formula works great; except, what if we only use 5 crews per aircraft instead of 5.5? Also, what do you think will be the staffing number if Pref Bid comes online? I can guess it will be less than 5 per aircraft IMHO.

I know you're right.

I know that Brad likes PBS, and I'm pretty sure that he'll want you guys to use AOS.

But I'm telling you that it will be a huge consession, especially in regards to you vacation language from what I have been told.

If you have a choice, say NO to AOS PBS.

IMO

 

[USCtrojan]

I know you're right.

I know that Brad likes PBS, and I'm pretty sure that he'll want you guys to use AOS.

But I'm telling you that it will be a huge consession, especially in regards to you vacation language from what I have been told.

If you have a choice, say NO to AOS PBS.

IMO

AOS isn't even being considered. As far as I know, just from the newsletters, Flightline is the front runner (Flica) because of its ease of use. My guess is whatever ASA ends up with, SkyWest will have as well.

Trojan

 

[boctal]

50 notices go out Friday morning, January 2nd

I think you need some new sources.

 

[CFI2766]

I know you're right.

I know that Brad likes PBS, and I'm pretty sure that he'll want you guys to use AOS.

But I'm telling you that it will be a huge consession, especially in regards to you vacation language from what I have been told.

If you have a choice, say NO to AOS PBS.

IMO

I'm kinda reading between the lines here, but does SKYW not have PBS? I thought they did.


In as much as there is not a great reason to go to PBS for the company unless it saves them money, read: fewer pilots, it is a safe assumption that a PBS software program will mean a need for fewer pilots at ASA. As there really is not much attrition right now, it might also be a correct statement that ASA would be close to properly staffed with the addition of the 10 900s. I'm basing this off of the lack of chatter from the company about overstaffing when the ATRs were still on property. Thus, it seems clear that an acceptance of PBS will mean an immediate need for fewer pilots.

Therefore, a vote for PBS means a vote to put ASA pilots out of a job. ASA pilots: Think about this when you vote, probably in the near future.

 

[CFI2766]

No, you are safe,for now. You can worry again--when the 900's are yanked away and given back to Freedom for a second round of circle-jerking!

SPEED, honey, lookin' good in the Avatar. I'd suggest a little more work on the traps, though. If you are gonna wear your hair in the 'Jennifer', you'll really need to bulk those up if they are going to stand out...