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gator_hater said:
That is the min number. If they want to put more into any seat they can, but they have to place at least 12.
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I get that, but they recalled 42, and say they have 12 places to put them. I would think they would show 42 slots - or vacancies - to show where they need to go. Not to mention with 4 700's, at even 3.5 per plane, there should be 14 vacancies just to cover the new 70's, and if they know that a couple are leaving for Vietnam, even more. I guess I have no clue how they figure the vacancies.

Welcome back to the 42. Hope to see the last 100 soon.
 
I wonder how junior IAD FO will go. I'm thinking with 42 coming back it's quite possible a furloughee could go straight from the street to lineholder in IAD.
 
They are trying to manage the IAD thing. I believe that they have to pay moving expenses if you are recalled to a base different from which you were furloughed.
 
gator_hater said:
They are trying to manage the IAD thing. I believe that they have to pay moving expenses if you are recalled to a base different from which you were furloughed.
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It would be dead wrong if pilots displaced to IAD were forced to stay there why lower seniority pilots were given a comfy ATL slot.

I got less than 400 bucks moving expenses after taxes. It is a very small cost to pay moving expenses for 24 or so furloughs to head up here.
 
Jack-O-Lantern said:
Now some of those mouthy idiots on the ASA ALPA board with their pessimistic worthless drool can STFU now!
Who am I kidding,that won't happen.
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They will find some reason to whine about this...It won't be enough or fast enough....
 
Trip 7, you took the money in lieu of moving. If theses guys know they are going to be on reserve and decide that they would rather pack their happy buts up and bring in the trucks it is a little more than $700. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, I'm just speculating as to why.
 
gator_hater said:
Trip 7, you took the money in lieu of moving. If theses guys know they are going to be on reserve and decide that they would rather pack their happy buts up and bring in the trucks it is a little more than $700. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, I'm just speculating as to why.
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I doubt they'll be able to hold people up here anyway since there are vacancies on both the 700 and 200
 
No paid move after 6 months of a new domicile unless you're displaced. I think the awards are effective 9/1 so no moving money
 
Just looked it up something about recall within 90 days to a domicile different from that furloughed. Not for them, but others could get it. I had the exact same time frame when going to SLC, paid for the move myself and heard conflicting definitions of "6 months." I turned in a stack of receipts and got a nice fat paycheck next time. It is worth the effort if you end up in that situation.
 
With about 40 people total going to Vietnam and 42 being recalled, there's your number. Six of the -200s still don't have a job by the end of this month, and 4 -700s are coming. Sounds like a wash to me.
 
homerjdispatch said:
For the last time... ASa CANT BUY ANYONE... SkyWest, INC. can....
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Any number of technical games can be played with money:

ASA could buy the frames with cash from outside investors, Skywest could buy and lease them to ASA, Skywest Inc may choose loan money to ASA or ASA could work with a third party firm to acquire frames.
 
Long Time Gone said:
With about 40 people total going to Vietnam and 42 being recalled, there's your number. Six of the -200s still don't have a job by the end of this month, and 4 -700s are coming. Sounds like a wash to me.
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They are recalling for a good reason. PBS would really make this awash and not require recalls. More planes on the way.
 
Originally Posted by homerjdispatch
For the last time... ASa CANT BUY ANYONE... SkyWest, INC. can....
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Actually, ASA can. It wouldn't be much different than ASA buying pizza, airplane parts, etc.

Now, I think we will all agree Papa Jerry will be telling ASA what they can and can't purchase!
 
Until very recently, I wondered why Brad H. was still at ASA. Realistically, his resume' was about as good as it would get if he thought that ASA would be stagnant.

He came to Atlanta, generally took a firehose to the GO (with a few exceptions), played ball with the various labor groups, and voila', good things happened from a performance standpoint. If there was nothing strategically planned for ASA in the near future, there would be very little to keep the Bradster at ASA; his future prospects would not be served by sitting at the helm of a mature regional in the RFP warzone.

I would opine that the fact that BH is still here, and still very much doing the will of Inc., bodes very well for plans for the future of ASA.

ASA might not be the tallest midget in the room, but we are certainly close.
 
I know I'm included in the 56 that will be riceiving a recall notice. The company email stated that we would be getting information via FedEx Saturday (yesterday). My information is correct on ourasa and I was contacted by ALPA, no information packet has been delivered. Did anyone get theirs yet?
 
resetjet said:
I know I'm included in the 56 that will be riceiving a recall notice. The company email stated that we would be getting information via FedEx Saturday (yesterday). My information is correct on ourasa and I was contacted by ALPA, no information packet has been delivered. Did anyone get theirs yet?
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Not yet, I imagine it will arrive on tues or wed.
 
777forever said:
They are recalling for a good reason. PBS would really make this awash and not require recalls. More planes on the way.
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Except that I think they furloughed to the max in anticipation of PBS passing, intentionally running us short now so we would be properly staffed when PBS kicked in. They weren't counting on 4 700s to replace the 6 200s. So I think the previous poster was correct--this is a wash for now.

Not to say that future growth won't mean future recalls, though.
 
Four aircraft initially for Vietnam and 20 positions per seat was my understanding. Anyone with actual creditable info? Wait......this IS flightinfo......my bad.
 
Long Time Gone said:
Four aircraft initially for Vietnam and 20 positions per seat was my understanding. Anyone with actual creditable info? Wait......this IS flightinfo......my bad.
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That's gotta be the best Avatar I've seen yet.
 
JustaNumber said:
Except that I think they furloughed to the max in anticipation of PBS passing, intentionally running us short now so we would be properly staffed when PBS kicked in. They weren't counting on 4 700s to replace the 6 200s. So I think the previous poster was correct--this is a wash for now.

Not to say that future growth won't mean future recalls, though.
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Technically we weren't running short at all. Management spread the lines out to save money. But they spread it to the point there weren't enough reserves. Shouldn't be a problem next month with the rise of the line values.
 
777forever said:
Technically we weren't running short at all. Management spread the lines out to save money. But they spread it to the point there weren't enough reserves. Shouldn't be a problem next month with the rise of the line values.
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PBS can't get here fast enough. Reserves should not be used to cover open time.
 
What else are you going to do with 120 reserves for 308 lines? There are very few sick calls in the overall scheme of things. All those guys would block next to nothing if not assigned trips. Now, If you want to make 50+ more lines and only have a handful of reserves every day, then I'm with you.
 
Does anybody else staff this way? I mean 120 reserves for 308 lines are you kidding me?

How incompetent is scheduling anyway?
 

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