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Silent Partner

Silent Partner

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Had a line check and the IP informed me that the company was going to furlough 100 in Jan - Feb time frame. Anyone else hear of this?

Also a friend of mine who is at Delta said they got a memo from Delta saying they are not going to hire until the end of 2009 due to how the economy is going. Anyone know of this also?
 
Possible... How would the IP know anyhow?
 
i hear that we have the same amount of block hours for jan as we do in dec. seems pointess to put people on the street for 3 months if our cyclical schedule comes back in spring as usual. but who knows pref bids seem like they are coming and that seems to allow more efficiency and to do more with less
 
Silent Partner said:
Had a line check and the IP informed me that the company was going to furlough 100 in Jan - Feb time frame. Anyone else hear of this?

Also a friend of mine who is at Delta said they got a memo from Delta saying they are not going to hire until the end of 2009 due to how the economy is going. Anyone know of this also?
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No memo went out at Delta with anything about hiring.
 
I've heard we are converting the spare rj's into bombers and sending them over to bomb France in the spring anyone hear that one. Maybe if we do that we can start hiring again for our new bombing operations.
 
Don't listen to the IPs. Some of them put rumors out there and wait and see how long it takes to come full circle to them again. Somebody in skunk works is laughing right now at this thread.
 
Well o.k. point taken (Don't listen to IP's)

But with all the ATR's gone and no replacement. Doesn't that make us (ASA) pretty fat on pilots and no additional flying? Especially if no one is hiring.

Need to choose my words wisely. Not a memo from Delta but he was informing me that Delta was forecasting to hire the start of 2009 but was now waiting due to merger (if NWA pilots retire) and economy.
 
anyways, the point is. . . nothing has been made official and that's what matters. Don't believe it til I eff'n see it.
 
ASA is fat on Pilots !!!!!!!! Enough SAID

DL has over 12,000 pilots and you think they are going to keep that level or even hire?? With cutting Intl and Domestic as they said last week?

I see big cuts coming=Hold ON
 
scarlet said:
ASA is fat on Pilots !!!!!!!! Enough SAID

DL has over 12,000 pilots and you think they are going to keep that level or even hire?? With cutting Intl and Domestic as they said last week?

I see big cuts coming=Hold ON
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Shut up
 
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SP- the gentleman that gave you your linecheck is simply another line pilot. He knows no more than you do, myself, or anyone else that flies the line. All that is floating around right now is conjecture- personally, I am thinking the time to furlough has come and gone- any furloughs at this point are simply not worth it. That is, if our flying returns to a level that it has been at in the past, for the summer months. The only way I could see furloughs is if Delta drastically cuts DCI flying for the summer. Even with a weak economy, we were still busy last year, and it was announced that financial analysis illustrated we were in a recession even durring the previous summer.

Delta isn't going to hire for a very long time. I cannot think of a single case in airline history where two airlines merged, and then hired as a result. However, I can recount many, many, many instances where a furlough insued after a merger- it's that case with nearly all of them. I'm not saying Delta is going to furlough, but the odds of them hiring are slim, at best.

I too second Stiffler's request for more vids: )
 
scarlet said:
ASA is fat on Pilots !!!!!!!! Enough SAID

DL has over 12,000 pilots and you think they are going to keep that level or even hire?? With cutting Intl and Domestic as they said last week?

I see big cuts coming=Hold ON
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Your posts are improving. This one was marginally coherent, had complete sentences, and no spelling errors.
 
JumpersAway said:
SP- the gentleman that gave you your linecheck is simply another line pilot. He knows no more than you do, myself, or anyone else that flies the line. All that is floating around right now is conjecture- personally, I am thinking the time to furlough has come and gone- any furloughs at this point are simply not worth it. That is, if our flying returns to a level that it has been at in the past, for the summer months. The only way I could see furloughs is if Delta drastically cuts DCI flying for the summer. Even with a weak economy, we were still busy last year, and it was announced that financial analysis illustrated we were in a recession even durring the previous summer.

Delta isn't going to hire for a very long time. I cannot think of a single case in airline history where two airlines merged, and then hired as a result. However, I can recount many, many, many instances where a furlough insued after a merger- it's that case with nearly all of them. I'm not saying Delta is going to furlough, but the odds of them hiring are slim, at best.

I too second Stiffler's request for more vids: )
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You must not remember the Western merger then. Most of our senior pilots were hired from 87 to 91.
 
scarlet said:
ASA is fat on Pilots !!!!!!!! Enough SAID

DL has over 12,000 pilots and you think they are going to keep that level or even hire?? With cutting Intl and Domestic as they said last week?

I see big cuts coming=Hold ON
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You...are...a...

MORON.

Still upset that ASA wouldn't hire ya'?
 
Additionally, did anyone see how much open time there is for CPT's this month? Crazy. I've put in 5 trip swaps and to avail due to 'Coverage.' Not on Xmas either or New years, one of the days fall on a Sat in the middle of the month, and they still won't swap it. i find it hard to believe we're gonna furlough with that. But who knows.

Trojan
 
JumpersAway said:
That is, if our flying returns to a level that it has been at in the past, for the summer months. The only way I could see furloughs is if Delta drastically cuts DCI flying for the summer.
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Bingo. I think we're not going to furlough, but if we do, I don't think that would forecast good times ahead for ASA. The only way management would pull the trigger on this is if they knew our summer schedule would be cut, and cut hard. With Mesaba gearing up to set up shop in ATL, it's possible. The 200 does a lot of short hops that will be sent to the Saab... it just depends on what they replace it with I guess.
 
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sweptback said:
With Mesaba gearing up to set up shop in ATL, it's possible. The 200 does a lot of short hops that will be sent to the Saab... it just depends on what they replace it with I guess.
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Mesaba is looking into the ATR72-600 as the Saab replacement. They were looking into this as late as last year only to have the project put on hold...the merger...Ask about the special projects team S.L. and company were part of...

Look for the ATR at Mesaba within a few years..
 
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Some members of ASA management think that furloughs are needed for cost savings. However, CT reports to BH, and BH is against furloughs. The system chief pilot does what he is told, it is not a decision up to him. The GO was prepared for training and increased block hours for -900 airframes. Those did not come.

ASA hasn't furloughed yet, and they won't until they do.
 
ridgeback - stop flaming. mesaba doesnt choose what they operate. delta does and delta isnt looking at any turboprops currently, and doesnt want the saabs they have, but since they have them they will use them till the leases expire. mesaba can no more choose what they fly then comair. and if tp's do return asa has a nice rate already established.
 

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