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ASA is cheaper because our completion factor and on-time performance is better than Mesa's. Also, we are actively pushing fuel conservation initiatives like Project-APU (which saves a ton of fuel, by the way). If we can keep ahead of the competition in these ways, we will get a lot of their flying.


Project APU could very well mean the difference of turning a profit this year or being in the Red along with everyone else. What's your policy on SE Taxi? Flying out of LGA the last couple of months I've seen WAAYYY too many RJ's in the conga line of 30 airplanes with BOTH engines running AND the APU door open. What a waist of $$, this isn't an observation of DCI carriers....it's everyone. The most surprising is Air Whiskey...buring up USAir's profits...and they OWN 19% of USAir, you think they'd have an incentive NOT to waist fuel? Here at mainline we usually wait to crank #2 until we're 2 or 3 for t/o, unless it's first flight of the day then a bit earlier. When I was at 9E there was the prevailing attitude of "screw it it's NWA $$, crank it up!". I would imagine (and no I haven't heard anything, just me thinking outloud) that with the economy tanking, fuel through the roof and the pronounced LACK of mergers that the DCI flying contracts are going to be tweaked (especially Skywest's)....and DAL will no longer be buying your fuel. Standby to have all the DCI flying be put up for re-bid and a new request for proposal sent out.

This is NOT a flaimbait, just trying to get some thoughtful response (yes i realize this is FI).
 
Project APU could very well mean the difference of turning a profit this year or being in the Red along with everyone else. What's your policy on SE Taxi? Flying out of LGA the last couple of months I've seen WAAYYY too many RJ's in the conga line of 30 airplanes with BOTH engines running AND the APU door open. What a waist of $$, this isn't an observation of DCI carriers....it's everyone. The most surprising is Air Whiskey...buring up USAir's profits...and they OWN 19% of USAir, you think they'd have an incentive NOT to waist fuel? Here at mainline we usually wait to crank #2 until we're 2 or 3 for t/o, unless it's first flight of the day then a bit earlier. When I was at 9E there was the prevailing attitude of "screw it it's NWA $$, crank it up!". I would imagine (and no I haven't heard anything, just me thinking outloud) that with the economy tanking, fuel through the roof and the pronounced LACK of mergers that the DCI flying contracts are going to be tweaked (especially Skywest's)....and DAL will no longer be buying your fuel. Standby to have all the DCI flying be put up for re-bid and a new request for proposal sent out.

This is NOT a flaimbait, just trying to get some thoughtful response (yes i realize this is FI).


What grounds would DAL have to go to Skywest and say we will no longer take fuel as a pass through cost?

Skywest Inc. has aout 12yrs left on this contract. Fuel was an issue at the time of signing.

Medeco
 
ASA getting MCO flying just doesn't make sense. You have an installed group of Comair MCO commuters who've operated the base successfully for the previous two iterations we were based there. Over/Underwing is accomplished by Comair, too. DL would get a pool of happy pilots who positive-space commute by car and the operation would yet again run like a champ.

I am glad, however, to see the ERJs go and ASA will be a much more welcome sight to my commute!
 
Project APU could very well mean the difference of turning a profit this year or being in the Red along with everyone else. What's your policy on SE Taxi? Flying out of LGA the last couple of months I've seen WAAYYY too many RJ's in the conga line of 30 airplanes with BOTH engines running AND the APU door open. What a waist of $$, this isn't an observation of DCI carriers....it's everyone. The most surprising is Air Whiskey...buring up USAir's profits...and they OWN 19% of USAir, you think they'd have an incentive NOT to waist fuel? Here at mainline we usually wait to crank #2 until we're 2 or 3 for t/o, unless it's first flight of the day then a bit earlier. When I was at 9E there was the prevailing attitude of "screw it it's NWA $$, crank it up!". I would imagine (and no I haven't heard anything, just me thinking outloud) that with the economy tanking, fuel through the roof and the pronounced LACK of mergers that the DCI flying contracts are going to be tweaked (especially Skywest's)....and DAL will no longer be buying your fuel. Standby to have all the DCI flying be put up for re-bid and a new request for proposal sent out.

This is NOT a flaimbait, just trying to get some thoughtful response (yes i realize this is FI).


I don't really believe that. While yes Delta does purchase our fuel for us, it is surely worked in to the contract. The fact that Delta is buying all the fuel for DCI, it enables them to get it at a cheaper cost. I benefits everyone. So as far as Delta making us pay for our own fuel, I think not.
 
What grounds would DAL have to go to Skywest and say we will no longer take fuel as a pass through cost?

Skywest Inc. has aout 12yrs left on this contract. Fuel was an issue at the time of signing.

Medeco


I don't know but I would imagine that somewhere deep in the fine print of the contract is a provision for re-negotiation of the provisions of the contract should certain "triggers" happen, such as a national recession, runaway fuel costs, so many quarters of posting a loss on certain routes/equipment, ect. All contracts can be broken or re-worked....just depends on how to go about it or what legal wrangling needs to be done. But rest assured one thing, DAL will not continue to post losses while the DCI carriers post profits on those losses...something will give somewhere.

But back to my original question...why do I see a rediculous amount of RJ's in long taxi lines with BOTH engines running AND the apu door open???
 
Some guys still have the attitude of sticking it to the man, and not caring about how much they burn. The guy I've been flying with this whole month wouldn't let me shut the APU down on the ground once, and made me start it up on decent at 10,000 ft. If ground power was available at outstations, he would specifically tell them not to hook it up. And this is even when it's nice outside. (comfortable for the passengers)

Some people have it engrained in them to be forever pissed off and think that anything to save money and move forward with our company is a management ploy to line their own pockets for money. While the later of that may be true, sometimes what's good for the company is good for us. People need to move on, realize there's nothing we are fighting against the company for now, and do the right thing.
 
As far as running the APU on the 50, I lean toward passenger comfort. If I have 50 pax, I'm gonna run the APU no matter what the temp is. It's a matter of air circulation. Not just temperature.

If they had jurisdiction, OSHA would not allow the CRJ 50 to operate without the APU running on the ground, based on confined space entry requirements.

Now if it's not too hot, maybe 60f or less, and I've only got 30 pax, then we can talk about not running the APU.

As far as single engine taxi, I've always done it. Except for the last three months of contract negotiations.

But hey, the company made this bed. Between crappy lines, five years of contract, schedueling screwing up our lives, and everything else that makes a pilot go BANG...I can understand why some guys are stiki'n it to the man.

Yeah they may not have a nose when their done, but I can certainly understand their motivation.
 
mcnu - if your captain tells you to do something that is against the poh, point it out, if he tells you again to do it refuse, third time make him do it.

if the apu is started at 10,000 and catches fire or smokes up the cabin (as i had the 50 do years ago) how will you explain you were deviating from procedure.
 

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