ASA Stuck on days off pay question

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So I got stuck in CRW on my 6th day, so that led into my 7th day which they can't actually work me. So now the dead head is out on the 8th day with 24hrs rest in CRW. The question is am I paid 150% for each of these days?
 

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I'm no contract expert, but I would say yes. Of course, 150% of zero block hours on day 7 = 0, so you would still get paid 3.75 for that day. But for day 8 you would get 150% of the greater of schedule or block, on a per leg basis, OR 3.75 hours, whichever is greater. I could be wrong, but I don't believe min day credit ever gets multiplied.

By the way, that sucks!
 

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I'm also no contract expert, but I'm afraid that you'll only get per diem for the day in the hotel. You are contractually, and legally from an FAR standpoint, 'off' and free from all possibility of work.

I don't have the contract with me to back this speculation up, however. It's worth a read.
 

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I don't know about the pay, but I am pretty sure they owe you another day off. I can't remember exactly how it is written in the contract, but something about your days off will be in base.
 

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First of all, they owe another day off. Have to have at least 11 off IN DOMICILE. And you should get your min pay because you away from domicile. I couldn't find anything about the 150% for the day. Only for a regular pilot not reserve did this come into effect.
 

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Don't you guys have an ASA-only pilot forum for this kind of thing?
 

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Yeah I don't really care if anyone knows who I am. I posted on the ALPA board and got nothing.
I ended up non-reving home on my own time instead of spending 24 hrs there. So I don't now know how that will effect the days off thing.
 
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First of all, they owe another day off. Have to have at least 11 off IN DOMICILE. And you should get your min pay because you away from domicile. I couldn't find anything about the 150% for the day. Only for a regular pilot not reserve did this come into effect.
That is correct, 150% only for regular pilots extended, not reserve guys. I didn't make the connection that you were reserve (duh: not too many lineholders working 6-plus days in a row these days, although I guess you could have picked up a 2-day after a regular 4-day). You will get min day pay though. Same thing as a 30-hour overnight at an outstation.
 

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That is correct, 150% only for regular pilots extended, not reserve guys. I didn't make the connection that you were reserve (duh: not too many lineholders working 6-plus days in a row these days, although I guess you could have picked up a 2-day after a regular 4-day). You will get min day pay though. Same thing as a 30-hour overnight at an outstation.
Nope not reserve.
 

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So I got stuck in CRW on my 6th day, so that led into my 7th day which they can't actually work me. So now the dead head is out on the 8th day with 24hrs rest in CRW. The question is am I paid 150% for each of these days?
Call the following(in no order):

Agreement Compliance Chairman
Scheduling Hot Line
Any pilot Rep

You might get a more contractually correct answer. It sounds like you also may be a first on that type scenario. Your situation does not fit in a pigeon hole.

Are you a Lineholder or a Reserve Pilot?
Even if you traveled on your own time home, they will still have to treat your situation as though you had not.

The Seventh Day of rest is an FAA regulation and does not have to be in Domicile. However, contractually, you have to receive your day off in Domicile. There will have to be some remedy made available to you.
 

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I'm pretty certain that the Regs let you deadhead home on your 7th day. Your contract may supersede that though, I'm not familiar with it.
 
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