Asa Strike Vote!

[Phony Marconi]

<<a whole lot of nothing>>

Yo, GO A.:

Looks like you picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

You are chomping on the same crap that has gotten us into this mess in the first place.

You need an antidote for union Kool-Aid...and fast.

If we are so strong....then why does everything keep getting worse at ASA? Not better.

Even the rampers and schedulers have more power than us.

 

[Crash Pad]

I was in MSP and saw a NWA mechanic Union guy on TV. Guess what he said, "The strike is going well". What are the union cats going to tell ASA pilots when they strike. I know ASA could never be replaced in a heartbeat... I bet Delta could never grab extra capacity from Skywest, Mesa, Comair, Chitaqua, and mainline. Similar to the NWA mechanics Delta has been planning for this since the Comair strike. I will agree that they may have to reduce the number of flights to some cities. Maybe some cities would lose service for a short amount of time.
I just find it hard to believe that 89 days will pass and Skywest will then show up and say... Whoops just checking... Turns out you do mean buisness.
I find it easier to see assets transferred to skywest. Flying transferred. etc.
Hey if we are going to strike can we do it before this Saturday... AirInc is in town...

 

["GO AROUND"]

Yo, GO A.:

Looks like you picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

You are chomping on the same crap that has gotten us into this mess in the first place.

You need an antidote for union Kool-Aid...and fast.

If we are so strong....then why does everything keep getting worse at ASA? Not better.

Even the rampers and schedulers have more power than us.

What crap has gotten us into what mess? Specifics?

Union Kool aid, that's original. Pull yourself off the Company TITTY, or should I say Johnson and take off your rose colored glasses.

You should ask managment why things keep getting worse. After all the only power we have is unity and a work stoppage.

You're OK with schedulers having so much power over your life? I'm not.
The company is scared to death to give us the scheduling improvements. Because they know the incompetant's they have working there can barely handle the job now. Christ, they cause more problems in a day than they fix.

Keep livin in that managment Status Quo world that you like so much and we'll try to improve it rather than let them take it away from us.

 

[~~~^~~~]

The big picture is Delta. Delta is still hemorraging cash, even after the bankruptcy. 1.1Bn right now is a scary number, even if the real cash loss was "only" $400,000,000.00

I know SkyWest is a different company, but things in Atlanta are very tenuous. All objective indications are that Delta might not be here in the not too distant future. Airlines (with big political and financial constituencies seem to find ways to pull their fat out of the fryer, but base purely on the numbers Delta is headed off the cliff)

Whether or not you want to give them a shove in that direction is a question only you can answer. I'm not sure I know my answer. We can't all get hired at Airtran.

If ASA does not do something to address the non-economic, quality of life and safety issues, I will probably vote yes.

 

[bailout]

Funny you mention the rumor about the hiring freeze, because i heard today that when Bryan was in ops last week, he told everyone at LEAST 25 a month for the forseeable future. This would go inline with all the instructors we are hiring..

 

[~~~^~~~]

I was told the hiring freeze info came from VP of Flight Ops this week. Something about Delta not providing a fleet plan, or utilization direction.

I agree it seems like we should be hiring simply to cover the 15 or so that are leaving every month. Who knows it keeps changing.

I do know the Delta MEC put out a proposal to set a 79 seat rate and offered to waive furloughee benefits if Delta would withdraw the proposal to put 79 seat airplanes at DCI. I've seen it. There are not any proposed pay rates, but given that their proposed 100 seat rate tops out at less than ASA's 70 seat rates this can't be a good thing.

Who knows how this will play out. The Delta MEC is the only people ALPA allows to really negotiate and then we get to flight it out for the left over scraps. Maybe that is what we are seeing again.

 

[FIXIT]

I love my job, I tapped 4 FA's in the past week.

LATE!

R2DCUP your pretty good at picking up chicks, plus your like the only guy in the air with a mustache. Will you teach me your skillz? All i got is self loving.


OUT

 

[Tomct]

:laughhony, all I can do is LAUGH when I read your posts! You are so full of SH@T that it is UNBELIEVABLE! Like Go Around said...."get off the teet of the company or better yet, the johnson..." I can't believe how out of touch you are with reality! Give JA a call, they are hiring! IDIOT!!!!!

 

[John Pennekamp]

Anyone notice this is a thread from 2005? Doh!

 

[rightseatjocky]

We are going to take a pay cut one way or another, it is pure fact. Either we take it as they (skywest) want or they (skywest) take our planes. MMM lets see, they're taking 13 70's that were in salt lake. Its not giving in, it is just keeping a job. Asa pilots, need to pull their heads out and smell the coffee.

 

[twott driver]

We are going to take a pay cut one way or another, it is pure fact. Either we take it as they (skywest) want or they (skywest) take our planes. MMM lets see, they're taking 13 70's that were in salt lake. Its not giving in, it is just keeping a job. Asa pilots, need to pull their heads out and smell the coffee.

Another 3 poster coming out with gems!

Do somthing useful at the GO like hiring more rampers rather than wasting time screwing around on the computer posting sh!t like that! Troll

 

[rightseatjocky]

Actually, I am a 700 driver in salt lake. I just dont post on here unless there is something I have to say. It is too bad that you have to resort to name calling. Shows how some of the ASA drivers act.
I have been reading these posts for a couple of years and ASA pilots are so disgruntle they have lost sight of what needs to be looked at. Quality of life.
If you want to know who I am just ask.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Actually, I am a 700 driver in salt lake. I just dont post on here unless there is something I have to say. It is too bad that you have to resort to name calling. Shows how some of the ASA drivers act.
I have been reading these posts for a couple of years and ASA pilots are so disgruntle they have lost sight of what needs to be looked at. Quality of life.
If you want to know who I am just ask.

Uh huh. Sure you are. Back to your cubicle before I call uncle Brian on you. I'm asking. Who are you?

 

[rightseatjocky]

700 driver been at asa 3.5 years. I dont have a problem saying that my last name is mccoy. Are you going to return the favor?

 

[rightseatjocky]

Look, I am not going to name bash or what ever you guys want to do. Lets look at this realistically. Delta mainline takes a 49% pay cut. You dont think were not going to take one.
Jerry atkins gets what he wants. He will continue to take our planes until he gets what he wants. I dont want a pay cut as much as any other asa pilot. It is just fact as what is going to happen

 

[John Pennekamp]

700 driver been at asa 3.5 years. I dont have a problem saying that my last name is mccoy. Are you going to return the favor?

Jim? OK, I apologize for calling you a management troll. But you could use an education on what we're voting to strike for.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Look, I am not going to name bash or what ever you guys want to do. Lets look at this realistically. Delta mainline takes a 49% pay cut. You dont think were not going to take one.
Jerry atkins gets what he wants. He will continue to take our planes until he gets what he wants. I dont want a pay cut as much as any other asa pilot. It is just fact as what is going to happen

Mainline took a 49% cut because they're in bankruptcy. We on the other hand, are owned by one of the most profitable airlines. Jerry will not get what he wants if he pushes us. He will lose a $500M investment and have to explain his error to the board of directors. I'm sorry, dude, but your opinion is one of a very slim minority here.

Don't let Jerry's threat of assets transfer scare you. No assets have actually left yet, have they?

 

[rightseatjocky]

I know what we are fighting for. I think that if we strike we are all going to lose. Yes, youre right that we need to fight on somethings. As the mec has walked away until we (asa and pilots ) pull their heads out. As you know when skywest bought us, the negotiations have gotten worse and they just dont play any more. I have talked to a lot of skywest pilots and they jerry can be a very nasty person when he wants to be. You know hes trying to bust the union.
There has been quite a few fo's going to skywest now. Do they know something we dont?

 

[BuzzSaw]

Lets show solidarity with our MEC and let them do their jobs!!!

BL can have his stock options and Chuck can have his Delta retirement. Skywest can park every aeroplane out in the desert for all I care.

My knowledge, experience and professionalism costs something, $$$$.

Aviation Career Advice; Never depend on the airline for a living...
Start a side occupation now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buzz Saw

 

[rightseatjocky]

Mainline took a 49% cut because they're in bankruptcy. We on the other hand, are owned by one of the most profitable airlines. Jerry will not get what he wants if he pushes us. He will lose a $500M investment and have to explain his error to the board of directors. I'm sorry, dude, but your opinion is one of a very slim minority here.

Don't let Jerry's threat of assets transfer scare you. No assets have actually left yet, have they?

No, youre right they have not left us, Yet. I have to agree with you. Skywest has put in court to take our assets. They are just waiting on approval for this.
Yes, skywest and asa are cash cows. I dont dissagree in that fact.