ASA shutting the door on hiring

[Firefly]

I was told by an ASA captain, during an exit interview, that ASA will stop hiring shortly because of fuel cost.

 

[ifly4food]

Really?

Well, my cousin's friends' nephew's aunt's mom's grocer's son's friends' brother, who is in management, told me that ASA is getting rid of all the -200s next month. So you must be right!

 

[JoeMerchant]

I don't know if it is true or not.....but it wouldn't surprise me.....It is clear that the music is about to stop and there aren't enough chairs for everyone to sit in.....

It isn't just oil.....the US economy is in serious trouble.....

 

[johnpeace]

I've heard that some classes have been canceled, but interviews are still taking place.

 

[ifly4food]

Seriously, though, we're pretty fat on pilots for the promises of no growth we keep hearing from management. And attrition has slowed to about 20 a month.

It doesn't really make sense for management to keep hiring 40 a month indefinitely. Especially with 12 airplanes leaving this year and no replacement (that's 120 pilot positions lost with ASA's staffing formula of 5 crews per airplane)

 

[twott driver]

Last time I looked 5 crews per plane multiplied by 12 planes was 120 pilots, or am I missing something?

 

[ParrotheadGTI]

heard the same thing today.. 2 guys that were hired to start the AATP program at FlightSafety were let go due to ASA stopping hiring

 

[ifly4food]

Last time I looked 5 crews per plane multiplied by 12 planes was 120 pilots, or am I missing something?

Yeah...120 pilots. 60 per seat.

 

[Speedtape]

I was told by an ASA captain, during an exit interview, that ASA will stop hiring shortly because of fuel cost.

Delta Air Lines CEO Richard Anderson told employees Friday that they should expect to hear next week about changes to the airline's operations -- a result of the current high fuel prices.

However, this could mean more RJ flying.

 

[Texx]

Delta Air Lines CEO Richard Anderson told employees Friday that they should expect to hear next week about changes to the airline's operations -- a result of the current high fuel prices.

However, this could mean more RJ flying.

Why do you think that Atkin was out here for a whole week in March.

 

[CFI2766]

Delta Air Lines CEO Richard Anderson told employees Friday that they should expect to hear next week about changes to the airline's operations -- a result of the current high fuel prices.

However, this could mean more RJ flying.

Possibly more RJ flying. Just looking at the schedule, I already see a couple cities where RJs or E-jets are doing flying that used to be done by mad-dogs.

I think that for all the rancor about the demise of the RJ, it's still cheaper to send an RJ somewhere than an MD. If the overall profit margin for a flight, even with relatively higher fuel costs, is higher on a specific type of equipment, that's the equipment that I would suspect would get the route.

Once again, why are the ATRs going away?

 

[CFI2766]

Why do you think that Atkin was out here for a whole week in March.

Going over legal strategies?

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Delta Connection is going to pull out of markets system wide. Delta's going to plea poverty and high gas prices, and DCI will get many block hours pulled. I suspect that if oil prices don't go back down, hahaha, then Eagle, Xjet, USAir express, and UAL Express will have similar fates. Just have to wait for the pendulum to swing the other way.

 

[777forever]

Possibly more RJ flying. Just looking at the schedule, I already see a couple cities where RJs or E-jets are doing flying that used to be done by mad-dogs.

I think that for all the rancor about the demise of the RJ, it's still cheaper to send an RJ somewhere than an MD. If the overall profit margin for a flight, even with relatively higher fuel costs, is higher on a specific type of equipment, that's the equipment that I would suspect would get the route.

Once again, why are the ATRs going away?

Because the ATRs are VERY old and VERY unreliable to the point where its not even worth the extra money. Plus, ATR is heavily booked on orders so no chance of new ATRs anytime soon. Lastly, Delta wants an all jet fleet.

 

[CFI2766]

Because the ATRs are VERY old and VERY unreliable to the point where its not even worth the extra money. Plus, ATR is heavily booked on orders so no chance of new ATRs anytime soon. Lastly, Delta wants an all jet fleet.

Basing this off of what?