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ASA shutting the door on hiring

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Actually he's smart pushing back. You still pay for the fuel that we de-fuel and that fuel can't be used again. Not so dumb to me!

You forget to mention increased pollution, wear and tear on the engines, ramp/taxiiway congestion, passengers getting nervous, and the fact that at idle or a bit above the CRJ would burn 500/hr per side. So if he had to defuel 500lbs say, that would have taken 30 min anyway.
 
In the past, when the economy tanked, mainline shrank, and ASA, Comair, and Skywest grew. Delta has made announcements over and over that they would focus growth on international flights. That will probably not stop. Reduction in domestic flying will probably be reduced. It history repeats, this should provide more opportunity for DCI, which now includes more than ASA, Comair, and Skywest.

Having said that, there are some existing DCI routes that will be eliminated due to poor load factors. However, with mainline cutbacks, there probably be some new opportunities for DCI. Replacement Jets (RJ's) will probably be an even more important
part of the strategy.

There has been some mention of reducing the Connectors. If this happens, some will go, some will grow. Maybe, this makes the success of D-0 even more important.

"At the same time, we're working hard within the revenue environment to right size the airline to the marketplace."
Anderson did not specifically mention any plans for job cuts. However, Delta soon could be building its case for why such cuts are needed. Anderson said Delta will share information with employees next week on its internal Web site documenting its efforts to pass rising fuel costs onto customers rather than requiring sacrifices from employees.
He said Delta announced plans this week to discontinue several domestic routes that are unprofitable at current fuel prices.
In December, Delta announced an earlier $400 million cost-saving plan that included reducing domestic capacity by up to 5 percent, shedding more than a dozen older aircraft and cutting an undisclosed number of jobs, mostly through attrition.
 
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Psssh I saved 550 off one once! Of course having only 20 pax and a good tailwind helps! Also cruising 4000ft above planned altitude.

I think they should give us $10 for each flight we burn below average. That'll get people to start saving more. I heard a guy on the ramp the other day that wanted to push back and burn off fuel instead of waiting 30 min to get de-fueled. What an idiot!

We had a full boat and flew at the filed altitude and still had a lower fuel burn. Amazing what happens when you get a little conservative on the speeds.

So far as the bonus, I'd been thinking something similar. We'd have to get the Mother Ship to buy into that one though. 59 and 81 gallons of gas respectively is nothing to sniff at especially if the entire fleet is doing it.
 
Well it looks like the music has stopped at ASA as they just canceled the CRJ CA, CRJ FO awards
 
I guess the new guys should start to look at this section of the contract..Section 1.J.

Good luck!
 
I guess the new guys should start to look at this section of the contract..Section 1.J.

Good luck!

What are you referring to???? Section 1 only goes up to "F", and there's not even a subsection "j".
 
FWIW, a lot of times we have operational issues on the ATR requiring us to spin both of them. Namely, you need both engines running to cool the cabin. Also, it's hard to taxi on one engine especially when really heavy, and we have a restriction requiring using both engines when the pavement is wet or icy.
Its March! You don't need to cool the cabin. You haven't needed to for several months now. And the ATR taxi's just fine on one engine.

How many times in the last 6 onths have we had ice on the taxiways or ramps in ATL? or anywhere else the ATR flies?
 
Its March! You don't need to cool the cabin. You haven't needed to for several months now. And the ATR taxi's just fine on one engine.

How many times in the last 6 onths have we had ice on the taxiways or ramps in ATL? or anywhere else the ATR flies?


Been in an ATR lately? We definately DO need to cool the cabin by mid-day.

The two engine taxi for wet/icy ramps is a POH thing. If we don't do it, we get in trouble.
 
Its March! You don't need to cool the cabin. You haven't needed to for several months now. And the ATR taxi's just fine on one engine.

How many times in the last 6 onths have we had ice on the taxiways or ramps in ATL? or anywhere else the ATR flies?

WTF? If it's 60 outside and sunny, it's 85 in the cabin of an ATR. By March, we're using the A/C carts and full cold on the packs.

As for icy runways and taxiways, guess you were absent for all of the snow/ice storms in ATL in Jan/Feb? Remember that whole thing about ASA planes taxiing for 4 hours in the ATL de-ice line?

What an idiot.
 
WTF? If it's 60 outside and sunny, it's 85 in the cabin of an ATR. By March, we're using the A/C carts and full cold on the packs.

As for icy runways and taxiways, guess you were absent for all of the snow/ice storms in ATL in Jan/Feb? Remember that whole thing about ASA planes taxiing for 4 hours in the ATL de-ice line?

What an idiot.
Its been 60 outside VERY few days in ATL for the past several months (but you're right about it getting hot quick when its 60+ and sunny. At that point, do what you need to do)
There were exactly 2 snow/ice days in ATL with anything on the taxiway. Maybe 3 if you count the last one with flurries that were completely gone within an hour or so (who cares about the runway, since if you're on it, I presume you intend to take off soon anyway). And yes, I was absent those days, thankfully.
The guy's point was that there are too many instances of ATR's and 700's, and 200's (as well as 76's-75's-md88-73's) running around with both engines running unnecessarily while sitting in line to take off and while taxiing to the gate. AND he's RIGHT...IMO
Of course there are valid reasons for some of those times but, you and I (and everyone else) knows we, as a group, could and should do more to use less....for a variety of reasons.

BTW, for someone with such a hangup on the bears, I'd have thought you would know it Soldier Field...not soldiers field.
 

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