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ASA Profit Margin Second Quarter 2006

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Delta posts impressive profit
Main SLC carriers all had a good 2nd quarter
By Paul Beebe
The Salt Lake Tribune

The principal airlines serving Salt Lake City International Airport were the stars of the industry during the second quarter as rising fares, full airplanes and cost-cutting continued to raise most carriers from the red.
Delta Air Lines produced a domestic operating profit of $393 million during the April-through-June period, the best of seven U.S.-based legacy carriers, according to financial information released Monday by the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Delta's domestic operating profit margin was second-best among the biggest
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domestic airlines. Only Northwest did better. Both airlines have struggled in bankruptcy for a year, and both have extracted sharp pay cuts from employees.
"The second-quarter results show the improvements we are making in our restructuring, but the challenge will be to continue the momentum into the slower fall travel season," spokesman Anthony Black said.
Operating income and margins measure a company's earning power from ongoing operations. Restructuring charges, interest payments and tax charges are excluded.
Southwest Airlines's margin was the largest among the nation's low-cost carriers. Its $401 million profit was more than seven times greater than No. 2 AirTran.
Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) and SkyWest Airlines, both subsidiaries of St. George-based SkyWest Inc., were the most profitable regional carriers in both profit and margin.
ASA, which SkyWest bought from Delta a week before Delta filed for Chapter 11, developed the regional sector's best margin from a $43 million profit. SkyWest's profit margin was lower, but enough to be ranked No. 2. And its operating income
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of $47 million was bigger.
ASA and SkyWest operate as feeder carriers for Delta. SkyWest is also a feeder for United Airlines.
"We are performing financially just as we had expected when we acquired ASA, so there are no surprises there. SkyWest's numbers are very similar to our plans as well," said Bradford Rich, SkyWest chief financial officer.
In August, Delta sought bids from regional carriers to operate up to 143 regional jets for its Delta Connection service. The move was interpreted as an attempt to pressure some of Delta's regional partners to cut costs. SkyWest and ASA were not included.
Delta will choose the winning bidders by year's end. Any reassigned jets will be switched over to new operators over the following 12 months. Rich said SkyWest has not decided whether to submit bids.
The entire U.S. airline industry reported a domestic operating profit margin of 7.9 percent during the quarter, the largest margin since the second quarter of 2000.
The seven biggest carriers earned a combined profit of $1.3 billion. Their 7.2 percent margin was the first profit since the beginning of 2003.
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ASA and SkyWest operate as feeder carriers for Delta. SkyWest is also a feeder for United Airlines.
"We are performing financially just as we had expected when we acquired ASA, so there are no surprises there. SkyWest's numbers are very similar to our plans as well," said Bradford Rich, SkyWest chief financial officer.
In August, Delta sought bids from regional carriers to operate up to 143 regional jets for its Delta Connection service. The move was interpreted as an attempt to pressure some of Delta's regional partners to cut costs. SkyWest and ASA were not included.
Delta will choose the winning bidders by year's end. Any reassigned jets will be switched over to new operators over the following 12 months. Rich said SkyWest has not decided whether to submit bids.

Based on this information, the spin that ASA management is telling their pilots is complete B.S. How the hell can they look you in the eye and say "we have to cut costs to be more competitive". Especially knowing how poorly managed ASA is right now and if it were being run properly, these numbers could be even better! I am pissed!
 
Think we could make that a little harder to read?
 
Gee I wonder why they want to keep us at current book or less on our contract?

More money from the cash cow for them and none for the employees.

Cause they are trying to stay competitive. Right..........

And the most important thing left to negotiate in the contract to me, SECTION 1, is a no cost item to them.
 
uhh yea...

ohplease! said:
well, I guess this kinda' blows the theory of ASA mgmt. isn't any good.

Apparently nearly every airline made a butt load of money(relative post 9/11) last quarter...so I guess they are all brilliant leaders and managers!? Sure some here at ASA do a good job...but give me a break!
 
ohplease,

Come on man, you've been around the block at ASA. Just imagine the profit potential if ASA had capable management.

ASA makes money in spite of itself, always has--probably always will.
 
The difficulty with negotiating scope is that we are negotiating with Atlantic Southeast Airlines at the same time Skywest Inc is transferring our aircraft. We need to negotiate with Skywest Inc, or Section 1 is worthless. Without a solid section 1, the rest of the contract is worthless. Honestly, we need to lay off the demands for 15% raises and concentrate on this. I feel that management has opened the door on this with the fact that they have opened language on their proposal with regards to placement of ASA pilots transferring to the Skywest seniority list. We need a full court press on this issue.
 
I think that ASA needs
 
I Think We At Asa Need To Fly The 70 For 50 Seat Rates, Mgmt Didn't Make Enough. Wait Better, Let The Morons At Skywest Fly The 90 For 50 Seat Rates.. Wait They Do..... Dumb A**es
 
ohplease! said:
well, I guess this kinda' blows the theory of ASA mgmt. isn't any good.

:rolleyes:Man you are such an @ss jockey for the company. I can't beleive the BS you believe! You are definately PERFECT for the dirtbags that run this company...."they are so perfect...me, myself and I....love this mgmnt...." You are killing us ALL you Jack@ss!
 
An @ss lol man, I love to get you guys going. You guys love to get on each others case. It's so easy to sit back here, throw in a comment and you guys just feed on it. Honestly, I couldn't care less what our company does and theirs does.
lol can we do some crying in baseball? hahaha
 
Asacrjcapt.
Semper Fi...... Former Marine 7212 Swing With The Wing. Laad Bn
 
Tomct said:
:rolleyes:Man you are such an @ss jockey for the company. I can't beleive the BS you believe! You are definately PERFECT for the dirtbags that run this company...."they are so perfect...me, myself and I....love this mgmnt...." You are killing us ALL you Jack@ss!
I'm just trying to raise your blood pressure enough to give you a stroke or a heart attack. Now, that would make my day.
 
ohplease! said:
well, I guess this kinda' blows the theory of ASA mgmt. isn't any good.

ASA makes money in SPITE of it's management, NOT because of them.
 
"Are you sure"......... Are you serious? Did you read LaBreque's memo two months ago about our on time & performance issues??? It's pretty bad when the $700,000 man publicly admits that he and his entire team have been asleep at the switch for not months but YEARS. He has undoubtedly had his wrists slapped over this issue and others since the buyout. I don't for a minute believe that he would put out an "egg on my face" memo like that one without being under stern duress from the real power at this company....JA.

So with that established, I find it a virtual certainty that a management team that has disregaurded all the passenger inconvenience, our relentless cries for help on the ops freq., & our national embarrasement of an On-Time stat sheet, in favor of staffing our ramp at 50% capacity & allowing our ground equipment to fall into total disrepair for the last several years, is not capable of some "island of genious" when it comes to financial matters. These guys are not that bright. On the off chance that they are that bright, they are too lazy to ever see any proactive plan to fruition without being expressly forced to do so.

However, stall, delay, make excuses, show up to work unprepared, & in general display ample evidence of a Failure and Inability To Lead.....these traits are right up their alley.
 
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which SkyWest bought from Delta a week before Delta filed for Chapter 11,
developed the regional sector's best margin from a $43 million profit. SkyWest's
profit margin was lower, but enough to be ranked No. 2. And its operating
income of $47 million was bigger
.

Golly, SkyWest has twice the planes of ASA. Does that mean ASA's planes make twice as much SkyWest's do?

Regardless of the circumstances ASA pilot find themselves in with the contract,
I don't see it going away anytime soon. It is a fabled cash cow in this day of 1% profit margins while ASA's stay over 4%.

SkyWest boys, if you can't read the writing, your paying not attention. Once ASA comletes their contract and ASA can still post those sorts or margins, you'll be next to fall. Even if it means a union in place there.
 
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Have you considered that Bryan is an evil genius? You have to get beyond the idea that the goal of management is to run the best airline possible. The goal of the management team is to run the most profitable business possible. If you can get away with an underpaid, understaffed, underperforming ramp and still keep your customers, than you are doing a great job and get promoted to President. And if you can string your pilots along through another year of negotiations while paying wages frozen 5 years ago (and convincing a bunch of them that their jobs are at risk), than you are probably doing a good job, too.

It's not about customer service and it sure isn't about the happiness, welfare or satisfaction of your workers. It's all about the money.
 
Have you considered that Bryan is an evil genius? You have to get beyond the idea that the goal of management is to run the best airline possible. The goal of the management team is to run the most profitable business possible. If you can get away with an underpaid, understaffed, underperforming ramp and still keep your customers, than you are doing a great job and get promoted to President. And if you can string your pilots along through another year of negotiations while paying wages frozen 5 years ago (and convincing a bunch of them that their jobs are at risk), than you are probably doing a good job, too.

It's not about customer service and it sure isn't about the happiness, welfare or satisfaction of your workers. It's all about the money.
thats what I'm sayin'...
 
thats what I'm sayin'...

Well none of your posts seem to come across this way. If this is the case, seems to me you love the fact that mgmt takes advantage of the workforce in order to make a few more bucks! Don't be a pu$$y and get behind the MEC, which is the only recourse we have to do something about the crappy situation here inwhich you assert, that mgmt is riding the backs of the employee group to pad the profits!
 
Well none of your posts seem to come across this way. If this is the case, seems to me you love the fact that mgmt takes advantage of the workforce in order to make a few more bucks! Don't be a pu$$y and get behind the MEC, which is the only recourse we have to do something about the crappy situation here inwhich you assert, that mgmt is riding the backs of the employee group to pad the profits!
you and I appear to have gotten a totally different meaning from what was said...

and BTW, I'm neither a pu$$y nor will I "get behind" our MEC. I disagree with most of what they doing.
 
The key word in your supposition is "Evil". While I don't rule it out, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt by opting for incompetence. Maybe you're right. Maybe they are doing exactly what they've set out to do. Maybe his apologetic memo was just part of the scheme to hide their effort to create the worst possible work environment, the worst possible passenger experience, & the worst possible example of the "Spirit of Delta". I know we don't work for Delta, so save your breath. My argument is that LaBreque's responibilities are to more than just the shareholder & the almighty dollar. Call me naieve (I prefer nostalgic) but there are better ways to actually Lead a company. Good management would find a way to take care of their people & their customers, and still turn a healthy profit. (See Southwest, or even the old Delta) Our management wastes millions on incopetence, ineffeciency & apathy alone.

Either way, what they are doing - intentional or incompetent - is nothing to be admired. "Oh Please" is of the mindset that they should be lauded as successful architects of our profitability. I don't give them that much credit. However, if that is the truth - I'm of the opinion they've done it in the sleaziest, laziest, most ethically bankrupt way possible - on the backs my family and yours with no accountability to the people who pay them to go from A to B.

"Oh Please" will now make an argument as to why this is the best one should hope for & that I should just be glad to have a job......
 
Have you considered that Bryan is an evil genius? You have to get beyond the idea that the goal of management is to run the best airline possible. The goal of the management team is to run the most profitable business possible. If you can get away with an underpaid, understaffed, underperforming ramp and still keep your customers, than you are doing a great job and get promoted to President. And if you can string your pilots along through another year of negotiations while paying wages frozen 5 years ago (and convincing a bunch of them that their jobs are at risk), than you are probably doing a good job, too.

It's not about customer service and it sure isn't about the happiness, welfare or satisfaction of your workers. It's all about the money.

Well, lets consider that the CSG station spends about $60,000 a MONTH delivering late bags. Lets say that it is half that amount, then consider that EVERY one of our stations spends an amount similar to that. How much ADDITIONAL profit would that be if our esteemed "evil genius" leader could just figure out a way to lead? If you really consider his efforts to be the cause if ASA making a profit then you probably need to replace those kneepads.
 
I don't care what that article says. Those numbers are very misleading and don't tell the whole story. Sure it appears we had a good quarter, but it really wasn't. We need to be more competitive in this industry.

Pilot pay cuts now!
 
I don't care what that article says. Those numbers are very misleading and don't tell the whole story. Sure it appears we had a good quarter, but it really wasn't. We need to be more competitive in this industry.

Pilot pay cuts now!

The sad thing is, that's exactly what will be said and people will buy management's take on it, even though they have the numbers in black and white.
 

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