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Sinca3

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10 ways to quit helping the company:

10) Fly the profiles (a given but it isn't happening)

9) Fly the SPs (a given but it isn't happening)

8) If you need a lunch break...take it (they are not built in to the schedules
and the crews are tired of going hungry!)

7) If there is MX then write it up (again I'm not condoning stupidity here, just
write up any and all MX that is on the a/c. Don't wait until you are going
home!)

6) Stopping using cell phones! (Stop using them from the a/c and stop using
them to communicate period. They are nice for both sides but they
don't pay for them but they get the benefits)

5) Stop calling Dispatch to keep a/c (I know swapping a/c sucks and is time
consuming. The more delays we take from a/c swaps then eventually the
fewer we will have. Let them figure it out!

4) Stop calling for wheelchairs. (I know I know it is embarassing to have to
explain to the a pax why their wheelchair is taking 20+ minutes but let them
complain to Delta/ASA. Us complaing hasn't done any good now has it!)

3) Stop calling scheduling! (We can't stand their incompetance so why get
involved with it. Stop calling to "give them a heads up" or locate your
other crew members. That is their job so let them try and do it!

2) Late In Late Out! (If you are late to the overnight and have to leave late
the next day then by god do it!! You have as much time from duty in to
departure as the bid packet says which is usually 45 minutes. If the sked
says you only have 10 minutes from duty in its WRONG. Stop trying to
help!!)

1) Stop busting your hump to be on time! Safety 1st....


So the under lying theme.........Do your job and ONLY you job. The people that suffer are the customers and that sucks I know. Until the customer starts complaining to Delta/ASA then things will never change here. I am guilty of all these things above, but if 1/2 the pilot group would live by this list things would change!

Cheers


on a side note.....don't forget Flica is not an approved source of information. So those mandatory reading files really aren't mandatory!
 
Sinca3 said:
10 ways to quit helping the company:

10) Fly the profiles (a given but it isn't happening)

9) Fly the SPs (a given but it isn't happening)

8) If you need a lunch break...take it (they are not built in to the schedules
and the crews are tired of going hungry!)

7) If there is MX then write it up (again I'm not condoning stupidity here, just
write up any and all MX that is on the a/c. Don't wait until you are going
home!)

6) Stopping using cell phones! (Stop using them from the a/c and stop using
them to communicate period. They are nice for both sides but they
don't pay for them but they get the benefits)

5) Stop calling Dispatch to keep a/c (I know swapping a/c sucks and is time
consuming. The more delays we take from a/c swaps then eventually the
fewer we will have. Let them figure it out!

4) Stop calling for wheelchairs. (I know I know it is embarassing to have to
explain to the a pax why their wheelchair is taking 20+ minutes but let them
complain to Delta/ASA. Us complaing hasn't done any good now has it!)

3) Stop calling scheduling! (We can't stand their incompetance so why get
involved with it. Stop calling to "give them a heads up" or locate your
other crew members. That is their job so let them try and do it!

2) Late In Late Out! (If you are late to the overnight and have to leave late
the next day then by god do it!! You have as much time from duty in to
departure as the bid packet says which is usually 45 minutes. If the sked
says you only have 10 minutes from duty in its WRONG. Stop trying to
help!!)

1) Stop busting your hump to be on time! Safety 1st....


So the under lying theme.........Do your job and ONLY you job. The people that suffer are the customers and that sucks I know. Until the customer starts complaining to Delta/ASA then things will never change here. I am guilty of all these things above, but if 1/2 the pilot group would live by this list things would change!

Cheers


on a side note.....don't forget Flica is not an approved source of information. So those mandatory reading files really aren't mandatory!

The problem is getting everybody to do it. Especially the newly upgraded Captains who are scared to do anything like that.
 
Sinca3 said:
10 ways to quit helping the company:

10) Fly the profiles (a given but it isn't happening)

9) Fly the SPs (a given but it isn't happening)

8) If you need a lunch break...take it (they are not built in to the schedules
and the crews are tired of going hungry!)

7) If there is MX then write it up (again I'm not condoning stupidity here, just
write up any and all MX that is on the a/c. Don't wait until you are going
home!)

6) Stopping using cell phones! (Stop using them from the a/c and stop using
them to communicate period. They are nice for both sides but they
don't pay for them but they get the benefits)

5) Stop calling Dispatch to keep a/c (I know swapping a/c sucks and is time
consuming. The more delays we take from a/c swaps then eventually the
fewer we will have. Let them figure it out!

4) Stop calling for wheelchairs. (I know I know it is embarassing to have to
explain to the a pax why their wheelchair is taking 20+ minutes but let them
complain to Delta/ASA. Us complaing hasn't done any good now has it!)

3) Stop calling scheduling! (We can't stand their incompetance so why get
involved with it. Stop calling to "give them a heads up" or locate your
other crew members. That is their job so let them try and do it!

2) Late In Late Out! (If you are late to the overnight and have to leave late
the next day then by god do it!! You have as much time from duty in to
departure as the bid packet says which is usually 45 minutes. If the sked
says you only have 10 minutes from duty in its WRONG. Stop trying to
help!!)

1) Stop busting your hump to be on time! Safety 1st....


So the under lying theme.........Do your job and ONLY you job. The people that suffer are the customers and that sucks I know. Until the customer starts complaining to Delta/ASA then things will never change here. I am guilty of all these things above, but if 1/2 the pilot group would live by this list things would change!

Cheers


on a side note.....don't forget Flica is not an approved source of information. So those mandatory reading files really aren't mandatory!

Spoken like a true UNprofessional. You ever read the airline pilot code of ethics? Do yourself a favor and quit. You are a deservice and a disgrace to the profession!
 
You are a deservice and a disgrace to the profession!

Hey professional, stop throwing stones from that huge glass house you live in!

Sinca3-

Re-read your SP's. You are required to call scheduling about any known problems. What you don't have to do is offer them solutions. Everything else you said is dead on.
 
Flica is an approved source of info now. Just came out in the new SP 400. Telling us to follow the SP's and you dont even read your revisions! :)
 
Yeah, dead on. Like taking out your frustrations on your passengers by providing bad service. Truly as low as you can go as a professional pilot. To intentionally Forget about some old grandma who has a tight connection and needs assistance is as low as it gets. Any fool who who practices this is a true disgrace to the profession!
 
Sinca3 said:
The people that suffer are the customers and that sucks I know. Until the customer starts complaining to Delta/ASA then things will never change here.

Customers have complained about ASA, but DL has never cared. Even if pilots fly strictly by the rules and cause more complaints, DL won't care. Customer service is not a priority at DL...except for maybe Song.
 
Sinca3 said:
4) Stop calling for wheelchairs. (I know I know it is embarassing to have to
explain to the a pax why their wheelchair is taking 20+ minutes but let them
complain to Delta/ASA. Us complaing hasn't done any good now has it!)

You might want to reconsider this one from your deeply thought out little list. There's no point in screwing an innocent pax just because the company is screwing you.
 
Let me see if I've got this right.....You want ME to reduce my own QOL?

Could it be that some of you cause yourselves a lot of the trouble you talk about? I just don't have all these things happen to me. That either means that 1) I'm much more special than I thought I was 2) I'm REALLY lucky or 3) doing my job well gives me pretty darn good QOL.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer. What do you think?
 
barbarian4 said:
You might want to reconsider this one from your deeply thought out little list. There's no point in screwing an innocent pax just because the company is screwing you.

I think the point he was trying to make is to ultimately make things better for not only the pilot group, but also the passengers. Sometimes it takes us all working together to get something changed. As long as airlines have Yes-Men flying for them, then nothing will ever get changed because management knows that somebody will always be there to pick up their slack. I worked for ASA for 8 years way back when. Things were the same then as they are now. Sure, I've been stuck having to wheel a grandma upstairs because nobody came to get her for 15 minutes, however, the company knows some crewmember will always bail them out like that, so nothing will ever get changed.
The people who think this pilot has no ethics or is a disgrace are the same people who constantly bitch about how screwed up things are at ASA, then when he gets somethings changed for the better, you reap the benefits of his hard work.
 

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