ASA PBS is.......

[Abernathy]

wrong wrong and wrong. speak for yourself please because pbs is a pay increase for me and many others. As a no voter means you represent the very very small boekel minority that opposes pbs. It's almost as if all the no voters congregate on flight info because 80 percent of the pilot group voted yes! After all the money that this company has spent on pbs it will be implemented in the new company, and they will make sure of it. what does that mean for us? More leverage during negotiations!

Vocal minority?

 

[Plainsman]

Without pbs i upgrade.
With pbs i dont. Dont give me bs about we will get growth with it.
Same guys whining now were wining about not upgrading in 3 years.
PBS maybe ok but alpa is unrolling this in the wrong way.

 

[Plainsman]

Meeeeee!

 

[Abernathy]

Without PBS........30-35% of pilots on reserve!
With PBS...........10% or less on reserve!!!!!

That alone is worth it to me!

That's a function of a deliberate and artificially created situation. You can rewrite it as:

Without proper staffing, 30-35% of the pilots on reserve. With proper staffing, 10% or less on reserve.

The company created this situation to convince guys like you to finally say "yes PBS is finally here!" However, what we haven't seen yet is if now the company will still staff thin with PBS, not really alleviating the situation.

 

[79%N1]

That's a function of a deliberate and artificially created situation. You can rewrite it as:

Without proper staffing, 30-35% of the pilots on reserve. With proper staffing, 10% or less on reserve.

The company created this situation to convince guys like you to finally say "yes PBS is finally here!" However, what we haven't seen yet is if now the company will still staff thin with PBS, not really alleviating the situation.

I see what you are saying, but if they don't properly staff for PBS, i.e many more reserves than necessary, then there will just be a ton of open time left over (trips not assigned into lines), which kind of defeats the purpose of PBS.

 

[crj567]

I see what you are saying, but if they don't properly staff for PBS, i.e many more reserves than necessary, then there will just be a ton of open time left over (trips not assigned into lines), which kind of defeats the purpose of PBS.

Nope-

If they don't properly staff, they will change the TLV and increase the amount if hours we each will get assigned. We gave them a HUGE window to use at their discretion, and they will use it to ensure that we all have 11 days off (on a good month.)

-When you lug low-value long trips into this system, you will lose days off like crazy. Some people just have to learn the hard way.

 

[Data]

If this continues to work like it did for my bid, deep in the reserve list and getting a 22 days off vacation month, holding a line 3 times a year will not suck. Will be interesting to see how the mid-level folks do and what the participation was for this round.

 

[777forever]

With line bidding I got Long Call Reserve in January. With PBS I got a line with 19 days off. I'm ecstatic for PBS. Turn the sucker on!

 

[Medeco]

I guess I did something wrong on this round, because I'm pretty sure I'm senior to you two and I got RES with vacation. CRJ200

If you look at the entire bid award it seems most of the guys around me got RES too, then some super junior guys got a couple of trips with a ton of days off.

If I'm reading it correctly.

 

[goahead]

My first serious post I think:

Why did some guys get vac and two four days and others get vac and three four days?? What options did one select and the other not? I looked at some mid level guys who got three four days but then some really junior guys got just two four days with a block under 75hrs thought that had to be the min according to the coversheet. Thanks just wondering so I don't screw it up when I have vac.

 

[ASABound]

It is so true for all of us. We have to take the time to learn the system and to learn how to set our preferences accordingly to get the bid award that we want. These guys that are getting good vacation months, I have all ideas have REALLY taken the time to learn the system. With that being said I am a 7 yr ASA guy and on this last award I was awarded a 16 day off line with no vacation and commutator trips......

 

[ASABound]

Commutator trips.... Sorry for the typo at the end, I am posting this from an iPad

 

[spudskier]

Commutator trips.... Sorry for the typo at the end, I am posting this from an iPad

Should have gone with android

With PBS I don't upgrade

EITHER way, next year, you'll upgrade. Trust that. next summer is going to be a blood bath and last summer is just a taste of how bad it's gonna be unless they hire balls to the wall

 

[ASABound]

Spudskier maybe so, but it was more trying to type on the iPad and my 16 month old daughter in my arms!! andriod or apple not a good combination!! lol.... I might also add that I am a 7 year guy in the left seat as well with that kind of an award....

 

[mxaviator]

Without PBS........30-35% of pilots on reserve!
With PBS...........10% or less on reserve!!!!!

That alone is worth it to me!

No, there were 303 lines awarded in Jan. (200 FO). With PBS there were still only 303 lines awarded with PBS. how does that put less of us on reserve?

I went from my 2nd reserve line of choice with my first choice of reserve period to my 3rd to last choice of reserve line. As far as I can tell after talking with a Rep, the PBS system copied reserve lines over from the actual bid. i.e. if you were awarded RES 702 for Jan, then PBS just gave you RES 701.
How is that a practice bid? The truth is, these practice bids have been nothing but smoke and mirrors. We won't know (especially those on reserve) what to realistically expect until we go live. That's the real "practice" bid.