ASA PBS Goes LIVE!

[777forever]

Per Union email a few minutes ago. Excellent news! Hooray for more lines! No more integration! Roundtrip straight drops for commuters or QOL people!

Only downside, we'll definitely be able to staff for 4 more 700s without hiring.

BTW, if Jan 10th will be your 1st "Practice Bid", I feel sorry for ya! Hope you like Ready Reserve!

 

[Freebrd]

BTW, if Jan 10th will be your 1st "Practice Bid", I feel sorry for ya! Hope you like Ready Reserve!

hopefully they were smart enough to at least have a good default bid

 

[pkunzip66]

it's going live and still doing 30% reserve pool, so all the bs the union said about 10% is a lie for the month of Feb. Funny how they missed to say that information at the early stages.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Still no October practice bid results. Way to go guys. Go live with it, a-holes.

 

[COOPERVANE]

777, the glee you are feeling concerning senior guys screwing up their bid will only last a couple of months.

 

[LazyLightnin']

777, the glee you are feeling concerning senior guys screwing up their bid will only last a couple of months.

That's the same feeling I get when I play with a vagina. Some people are different I guess.

 

[SiuDude]

Per Union email a few minutes ago. Excellent news! Hooray for more lines! No more integration! Roundtrip straight drops for commuters or QOL people!

We can straight drop portions of trips? Like into open time?
Can you site the section of LOA11 where it says that?

 

[mxaviator]

Yeah for 12 more lines, and a huge mess to come.

 

[Freebrd]

That's the same feeling I get when I play with a vagina. Some people are different I guess.

mmmmm vagina, yum yum eat em up

 

[ohplease!]

We can straight drop portions of trips? Like into open time?
Can you site the section of LOA11 where it says that?

You sure can.....as long a you can get some schmuck to pick up your ********************ty RT....otherwise, you're sill doing it.....the only difference from before is you don't have to find a poor schmuck to do the whole trip....

BOHICA everybody!

 

[79%N1]

it's going live and still doing 30% reserve pool, so all the bs the union said about 10% is a lie for the month of Feb. Funny how they missed to say that information at the early stages.

Where do you see that? If that is true, we need to start a recall of the MEC. That would be the final lie for me!

 

[pkunzip66]

Where do you see that? If that is true, we need to start a recall of the MEC. That would be the final lie for me!

Ask the Union, that is where I found out. They say it will only be for Feb but I have a feeling it may be for longer. This union only cares about the senior guys that are making a life here at this new "SUPER REGIONAL".

 

[79%N1]

So there will just be sh"t loads and sh't loads of open time left over. That is really not what PBS is even designed to do!

 

[mxaviator]

Ask the Union, that is where I found out. They say it will only be for Feb but I have a feeling it may be for longer. This union only cares about the senior guys that are making a life here at this new "SUPER REGIONAL".

That is what a PBS trainer told me the other day. He said, the company will be "conservative" for the first few months and keep more of us on reserve, as time goes on and they get comfortable with the system, then they will start reducing the reserve coverage. I guess we'll see.

 

[pkunzip66]

Great a few months now it has gone up to...wonderful. Just like N1 said, I can't see how they are doing this since it almost defeats the purpose of PBS in the first place to bring the RSV % up above what it is designed to.

 

[LazyLightnin']

ATDOTC

at the discretion of the company

 

[No Delay]

Hey, I was looking for a copy of our contract. That's it! Thanks!

 

[pkunzip66]

Alpa.org

 

[crj567]

ATDOTC

at the discretion of the company

Yep-

We could have saved a bunch on printing costs if we were honest enough to recognize that our entire contract is ATDOTC. At least all the important things are.

-Personally, I think this will be such a mess that it will lead to a recall. I can't say that it wouldn't be justified.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Alpa.org

I agree, but it's already here. You underestimate the nerddom of asa pilots on FI.

 

[Nevets]

You sure can.....as long a you can get some schmuck to pick up your ********************ty RT....otherwise, you're sill doing it.....the only difference from before is you don't have to find a poor schmuck to do the whole trip....

BOHICA everybody!

Sounds like the online advertise system we already have at XJT.

 

[DGdaPilot]

it's going live and still doing 30% reserve pool, so all the bs the union said about 10% is a lie for the month of Feb. Funny how they missed to say that information at the early stages.

You can't just cut your reserve staffing by more than 50% overnight. PBS will get you to a lower number, but it will take time for the company and ASA ALPA to tweak the system to run right.

 

[pkunzip66]

You can't just cut your reserve staffing by more than 50% overnight. PBS will get you to a lower number, but it will take time for the company and ASA ALPA to tweak the system to run right.

Tweak the system?!?!?! Isn't that the reason for the 6 months of delays it has taken already!

 

[DGdaPilot]

Tweak the system?!?!?! Isn't that the reason for the 6 months of delays it has taken already!

So when a new fleet type enters service at an airline there are never any issues to be ironed out? Everything works perfectly from day one with no adjustments needed?

PBS has lots of "levers" that can be pulled which can dramatically change how the system works and how it impacts your life. Sometimes those levers have to be adjusted for the best outcome.

 

[av8tor19]

So there will just be sh"t loads and sh't loads of open time left over. That is really not what PBS is even designed to do!

Well said. These systems can use ALL the time in the lines and adversely affect the results.

Question: How much open time is left over now? How much open time will be left over when the contract is inked?

I run PBS algorythms for my own airline. Open time makes a big difference.

 

[Texx]

Well said. These systems can use ALL the time in the lines and adversely affect the results.

Question: How much open time is left over now? How much open time will be left over when the contract is inked?

I run PBS algorythms for my own airline. Open time makes a big difference.

Now...enough for about 8 to 10 lines.
After... maybe 2 lines with only a handful of CDOs left over.

 

[crj567]

Tweak the system?!?!?! Isn't that the reason for the 6 months of delays it has taken already!

A good sign of how much of a trainwreck we are in for.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Per Union email a few minutes ago. Excellent news! Hooray for more lines! No more integration! Roundtrip straight drops for commuters or QOL people!

Only downside, we'll definitely be able to staff for 4 more 700s without hiring.

BTW, if Jan 10th will be your 1st "Practice Bid", I feel sorry for ya! Hope you like Ready Reserve!

QOL people??? I'm too drunk to understand why one would want a good quality life and another would want a shi+ quality of life.

And since you used the word "hooray" you are now the FI spokesperson for this prefbid crap. All complaints will be directed to you and your horse avatar for an explanation when it goes wrong. And be quick about it.

 

[COOPERVANE]

There's ALWAYS an excuse.

Is this gonna be "tweaked" for the next 5 years? Papagiorgio WON'T let go of his precious 40% reserve staffing model.

Or is it just being "enhanced"?

 

[Gr82Aviate]

There's ALWAYS an excuse.

Is this gonna be "tweaked" for the next 5 years? Papagiorgio WON'T let go of his precious 40% reserve staffing model.

Or is it just being "enhanced"?

"Enhanced", "tweaked", or whatever other excuse they come up with...welcome to the "suck" aka "PBS"!!
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