ASA on time performance?

[goahead]

Management is no exception. One of the CP's got extended twice.

Oh poor little boy, he makes how much a year and he finally has to fly. He was a CA for like a week b/4 he went into the CP office.... I don't feel sorry for any of them.

 

[CFI2766]

It has NOTHING to do with 19.02 an hour. The vast majority of pilots who apply to regionals don't even look at that. They are only interested in PIC time so they can move to the majors. It has become a means to an end, and that is part of the problem. The sooner we accept that reality, the sooner we can work on solving the problem it is causing. Denial of that fact isn't helping the situation....

Thankfully, supply and demand is finally starting to kick in, but it isn't because of 19.02 an hour. Just think what we could do if it wasn't so easy to get into the right seat of a 121 carrier...

The regionals will continue to fill classes at 19-22 bucks an hour because it is much better than CFI work and it is a means to an end...

Correct insight. What exactly could WE do about it?

 

[regionalcap]

I know a lot of pilots that are hitting 30 in 7 too. Be sure to check that logbook. What's better, scheduling is telling pilots that "legal to start legal to finish" applies to 30/7 and some chief pilots are backing scheduling. This is not true- 30/7 is a hard limit, just like 16 hours. "Legal to start..." only applies to the 8 hour rule.

According to the FAA interpretation site, it does apply to 30/7. Go here and read situation number 2.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...0/interpretations/data/interps/1992/Reich.rtf

 

[Tarzan]

But not an extention. If I am scheduled to 29.5 in seven days and get in suoer early on a given day, I'm done.

 

[doh]

According to the FAA interpretation site, it does apply to 30/7. Go here and read situation number 2.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...0/interpretations/data/interps/1992/Reich.rtf

You can only exceed 30/7 if you were originally scheduled for less. If they extend you, you are now scheduled to exceed 30/7. Not legal. And that applies only to your last day. So if you started the last day legal, had to hold, then you could finish.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

You can only exceed 30/7 if you were originally scheduled for less. If they extend you, you are now scheduled to exceed 30/7. Not legal. And that applies only to your last day. So if you started the last day legal, had to hold, then you could finish.

This is correct 100%

 

[John Pennekamp]

According to the FAA interpretation site, it does apply to 30/7. Go here and read situation number 2.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...0/interpretations/data/interps/1992/Reich.rtf

From the page you cite:

In response to your second question we have attached a prior interpretation to Captain Lloyd W. Barry, dated September 9, 1987, that discusses the "30 in 7" rule. Briefly stated, the FAA has consistently interpreted compliance with the "30 in 7" flight time limitation to be based primarily on a flight crewmember's actual flight hours. A correct interpretation of the "30 in 7" limitation, together with the flexibility provision of subparagraph (g), results in a requirement to add a flight crewmember's actual flight time accumulated in the previous days to the flight time scheduled to be flown on the current day. If this total is less than 30 hours, the flight crewmember may begin and complete the day's scheduled flying even if events beyond the control of the air carrier cause total actual flight time to exceed 30 hours. The same process is repeated for each successive day of flying for the 7 consecutive days.

Given your facts, if the scheduled flight time for the fourth day when added to the actual accumulated flight time for the previous 3 days exceeds 30 hours then the flight crewmember's total flight time would be in excess of that allowed under FAR 121.471(a).

So based on this interpretation, it goes on a "day by day" basis. You must not be scheduled for more than 30 in 7 on any given day, including actual block flown the previous 6 days. In this interpretation, "legal to start, legal to finish" only applies to "delays beyond the company's control" ON THAT DAY, not previous days.

So if you fly overblock the first 3 days of a 4 day, and when you add it up the morning of the 4th day, if your scheduled flights on the 4th day of your trip take you over 30, you are NOT LEGAL TO FINISH THE TRIP, by this interpretation.

 

[Morning Wood]

We can't even get our own people in DEN straightened out. Do you honestly think short of firing every single person in ATL that this is going to get fixed?