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goodto50meters

DOLE, I NEED A BLUE PILL!
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Well I just got a report from one of our reps that management negotiators have not shown up at the table yet and are in caucus with the mediator. They were supposed to be 'ready to negotiate' at 9AM.

Probably showed the mediator that brilliant sh1thead letter from LaBrecque instead of having their counter proposals ready as ordered.

Geezous, more of their incesant crap!

YES on strike vote!

The MEC says they will be in the Crew-Lounge all day for the play-by-play...
 
goodto50meters said:
Well I just got a report from one of our reps that management negotiators have not shown up at the table yet and are in caucus with the mediator. They were supposed to be 'ready to negotiate' at 9AM.

Probably showed the mediator that brilliant sh1thead letter from LaBrecque instead of having their counter proposals ready as ordered.

Geezous, more of their incesant crap!

YES on strike vote!

The MEC says they will be in the Crew-Lounge all day for the play-by-play...

Thanks for the update, keep us posted.
 
When the company negotiators finally came to the table, some time after 11am, they had nothing new to show. The word is they were pushing there propoganda of "we are too expensive and we are asking for too much!" There has been NO, Zip, Zelch, NADA proposed by the company at all! They are spending valueable time trying to sell a sob story or concessionary idea.
More to come.........
 
I really gotta find a new job! This Fu$king sucks. Coex is gonna get hosed, this whole industry is going in the sh$tter.

And to think I was actually a tiny bit optimistic today. That's been shot to sh$t.
 
Sinca3 said:
When the company negotiators finally came to the table, some time after 11am, they had nothing new to show. The word is they were pushing there propoganda of "we are too expensive and we are asking for too much!" There has been NO, Zip, Zelch, NADA proposed by the company at all! They are spending valueable time trying to sell a sob story or concessionary idea.
More to come.........

Where's my d@mn strike vote card? I'm still waiting!!!!!!!!!!
 
You had to volunteer at the airport on christmas to get it. At least that's what managment told me.

One of these days we're gonna read that someone went postal at the GO and all our problems are solved.
 
It appears that ASA "Mis Management" would rather spend a Million dollar to fight ALPA in order to save $20.00

BL is feeding us BS on the company web site. All this talk about Vision. The only Vision I see is the company trying to pull the wool over our eyes. They must think we are retarded, they broadcast their profits and tell ALPA that they're having to cinch up their belts to save.
 
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There is an update to the VARS 1-800-MEC-ATIS and the MEC should be in the ATL lounge the next couple of days. Also check the ALPA site for updates.
Pretty much status quo on the part of the company..............Nothing being proposed by the company!
 
I love ASA. I see no problems. We fly great equipment, cool people & I am hung.
 
what I'd like to see is the printed transcripts of today's session. Someone's bending the truth (at the very least). My guess is it isn't just one side. things that are this important should be viewable on closed circuit t.v. or tape or something. 8 or 10 guy's in a room with closed doors, especially when any of them is a lawyer, are not to be trusted to tell us regular folk the whole truth.
 
ohplease! said:
what I'd like to see is the printed transcripts of today's session. Someone's bending the truth (at the very least). My guess is it isn't just one side. things that are this important should be viewable on closed circuit t.v. or tape or something. 8 or 10 guy's in a room with closed doors, especially when any of them is a lawyer, are not to be trusted to tell us regular folk the whole truth.
Just wait, I'm sure you will hear ASA's version of everything in a few days....or you could just call Bill Hiers or Terry Hayes and ask them. I'm sure you are buddy buddy with them anyway!
 
"We must stick to the road map...", at least that is what Bill Hiers and Terry Hayes are trying to sell.

Fact is we didn't ask to be put in to a "cost box". That was a management decision and for all we know it could be made up. Afterall the company wanted the MEC to sign a confidentiality agreement that had language like"the company will not be held responsible or liable for the information presented." Pretty much they can lie and go to the crew lounge saying the MEC won't agree to what the company presented. The company wants to be able to pin as much as possible on the MEC and the CNC. I say, f*ck them. This job ain't worth it.
 
Sinca3 said:
There is an update to the VARS 1-800-MEC-ATIS and the MEC should be in the ATL lounge the next couple of days. Also check the ALPA site for updates.
Pretty much status quo on the part of the company..............Nothing being proposed by the company!

And the Company is asking us to take down our posting on our website about today.
 
Sinca3 said:
Just wait, I'm sure you will hear ASA's version of everything in a few days....or you could just call Bill Hiers or Terry Hayes and ask them. I'm sure you are buddy buddy with them anyway!
can you read? or are really that retarded?
 
ohplease! said:
what I'd like to see is the printed transcripts of today's session. Someone's bending the truth (at the very least). My guess is it isn't just one side. things that are this important should be viewable on closed circuit t.v. or tape or something. 8 or 10 guy's in a room with closed doors, especially when any of them is a lawyer, are not to be trusted to tell us regular folk the whole truth.

You are right and that is why there is a mediator.
 
Plug said:
You are right and that is why there is a mediator.
so far, I have not seen the mediator in the crew lounge with his version nor heard a taped phone message or a CD/DVD.
 
Plug said:
"We must stick to the road map...", at least that is what Bill Hiers and Terry Hayes are trying to sell.

Fact is we didn't ask to be put in to a "cost box". That was a management decision and for all we know it could be made up. Afterall the company wanted the MEC to sign a confidentiality agreement that had language like"the company will not be held responsible or liable for the information presented." Pretty much they can lie and go to the crew lounge saying the MEC won't agree to what the company presented. The company wants to be able to pin as much as possible on the MEC and the CNC. I say, f*ck them. This job ain't worth it.

If it "ain't worth it", why don't you leave? You are free to make that decision for yourself, but you had better not make that decision for me. The "cost box" as you call it, while unpleasant, is a reality. Have you seen what happened to Coex today? They got out of the "cost box". So did CMR.
 

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