Good to see them show spine for once. We are satisfied with flightline. the last thing we want is your unproven pbs system to be used here. I'm all for improving the PBS work rules but I think flightline has a better PBS system thAn your mec gives it credit for.
It's not unproven. And our MEC has actually tested both systems with real trips and actual work rules. Your MEC doesn't want to take their fingers out of their ears.
The rest of the debate notwithstanding, this is false. I have a 44-page paper regarding the ASA PBS vendor research sitting on my hard drive. It was distributed in September, which was WAY too late IMHO, but it was done.
They didn't use the standard way of comparing, the scientific method. They only researched the methodology and interface but they didn't actually test the theory they came up with. It was not an unbiased analysis.
And it was very late in coming. And that's because they didn't want to do it in the first place. It's obvious they are reluctant to look at anything else other than flight line.
BOTH MECs are to blame. The XJT MEC has made it perfectly clear that they will not entertain Flightline under any circumstances. There are fundamental differences in philosophy regarding seniority in schedule bidding. The ASA MEC is firmly convinced that SmartPref is unacceptable. The XJT MEC is firmly convinced that Flightline is unacceptable. Where does that leave any room for finding an amicable solution?
I find the lack of imagination and leadership on both sides unacceptable. I refuse to believe that there isn't a solution that could be satisfactory to both pilot groups. This business is getting to be as bad as fiscal cliff debate (No taxes vs No cuts). Recent solution notwithstanding, the rigid lines, pledges, etc. did not serve Congress well. We need to avoid that kind of spectacular dysfunction. This debate is threatening the rest of the JCBA and any hope of pilot unity going forward.
Actually, our position was our line bidding or nothing. Our compromises was smartpref. Your position has not moved an inch.
And there has been imagination on our side and the company. But your side keeps turning them down.
what is beyond understanding is why you wouldn't want to just tweak a PBS system we already have AND ARE HAPPY WITH...a system with years of experience of every possible loophole management has found....... versus one that has not been tested with our work rules, contract and management team.
i couldnt give a crap if 2 or 10 guys are needed to run it. frankly, I have actually benefited greatly from our guys... if i have a question about vacation bidding, bidding around training events, etc all i had to do was call them or heaven forbid, go to the office and have them walk me through it....
frankly we are tired of it. keep your line bidding... keep your pbs system... keep groups separate.....dont pollute us with your crap
Because your system would be a QOL concession for the ERJ side. Especially considering that the company want the best thing about your system, vacation low. They also dont want four guys on FTFPL to run any system.
As for staying separate, personally that's fine with me. But the company doesn't seem to want the USAir scenario happen here.
McPickle "McKnight" is mad because he wants a full time office gig.
It's funny how the XJT minons come on here and talk about wasted ALPA leave when their own guys sit around watching porn and coming into ATL on Tuesday and leave on Thursday. Also, they are on full pay full time leave even if they don't come into the office. At least the ASA guys have to come to work to get paid.
Keep the crying going. It's better than Oprah.
Unless things have changed from my time on the MEC, this is false. In any case, with smartpref, you don't need more than one person to be taken off of one trip's worth.
