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asa rat said:
F/A finals are out before the pilot group finals. Hard to believe the company did not have our finals completed at 12:01 on the 16th, but we won't see them til 16:59 on the 21st.
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Takes a lot of time to toss coins piss up a rope.... Lot of good any of that will do.
 
what makes you think they haven't finalized them? Do you really think those guys are working on it all weekend, they knew the finals yesterday, but they wait anyway....
 
asa rat said:
I'm sure they had the results immediately, looks like they are buying the little time they have to delay the bad news.
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I think people will be looking around for pitchforks when they see these results-and when they hear more lame excuses and rationalizations from our MEC.

-They really f-ed up. Bad...
 
Yep, they are delaying them until 1659 on the 21st, and then will make up something that pushes it back further. This will delay the time bomb that's waiting to explode after the pilots see their schedules. I think Monday is a holiday so there's the excuse. T minus 3.5 days until defcon level 3 meltdown.
 
Folks, I offer you this information. The PBS will run multiple solutions for our bids until both ALPA and the Company agree on the number os lines awarded and reserves remaining.

***RUMOR ALERT***
The company is probably scratching their heads over the CR2 PBS solution; supposedly pairings are too inefficient to provided adequate reserve coverage.
 
Let me just say, I hope that March is a total meltdown due to the stupidity of JP and SH.

If they truely are interviewing for the job again, this is the best thing that could happen to get rid of them.
 
March will be a disaster. That blame should fall squarely on SH, JP, CT and BH. ALPA is gonna give them a big, fat "told ya so!"

Question is will the pilots do anything about it or will we keep racing from gate to gate to get that flight out on time? Hmmm....I think my nutritional needs have to be addressed.
 
I agree that we will be in big trouble for March. Several senior guys with the sick time are calling in sick for the month. Company might as well put up the 200% pay for all opentime pickups now.
 
Yes, I understand who is over who.

Keep in mind, the JP is supposed to be the expert for the company. His superiors pay him to be the expert, so they dont have to be. I'm hoping we can give them a big FAT "We told you so".

They order came from the top to save money.

In the coming months we will see if, as the ALPA email said, that BH said this would not happen again. Now, we all know that BH wants to have the ability to say he saved the day, but the reality is that all responsibility falls on him.

If the pilot group wants this to stop, they had better not do anything more than what is written in the manual or contract.

It would be even better if we had an entire month of perfect weather and still had a melt down, to keep them from using that as an excuse.
 
Medeco said:
If the pilot group wants this to stop, they had better not do anything more than what is written in the manual or contract.

It would be even better if we had an entire month of perfect weather and still had a melt down, to keep them from using that as an excuse.
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It's certainly a buzzing sentiment right now. I've worked with a few pilots with a card (some laminated it to be shiny and soil-proof!) with all common, easy to find non-deferrable items to consider for times like these. One called it his "Wild Card".

If a meltdown happens, I hope it won't be from pilot sabotage. I don't think that would help our cause. *March Mayhem* will spawn from A-Tech's own foolish conception.
 
Just another reminder:

The CORRECT procedure for pushback is to only release the brake once you are ready to push. That means Cockpit door closed and locked F/A ready for taxi, all TDM data received, all cargo doors closed, and verificatioin from the tug driver or ramp that they are ready. DO NOT VIOLATE PROCEDURE BY SNAPPING THAT BRAKE AS SOON AS THE COCKPIT DOOR CLOSES !!!

On a side note: I flew a non acars last week. When I called dispatch, they told me the preferred method now is to use the new FDP tool on ourasa.com. That's good to know. From now on, at pushback time, I will oblige the company's request and walk my fat a$$ inside, find a computer and do the weight and balance. Once I get back to the airplane and comply with all the steps above, THEN I'll call in ACCURATE times.
 
damnflyboy said:
It's certainly a buzzing sentiment right now. I've worked with a few pilots with a card (some laminated it to be shiny and soil-proof!) with all common, easy to find non-deferrable items to consider for times like these. One called it his "Wild Card".
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I don't have the mentioned card and would hate to get violated for missing something...
 
GeekMaster said:
On a side note: I flew a non acars last week. When I called dispatch, they told me the preferred method now is to use the new FDP tool on ourasa.com. That's good to know. From now on, at pushback time, I will oblige the company's request and walk my fat a$$ inside, find a computer and do the weight and balance. Once I get back to the airplane and comply with all the steps above, THEN I'll call in ACCURATE times.
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I still don't see the link to the FDP tool on ourasa. Do you have to be on a company computer?
 
centralpilot said:
That would explain it, although I'm not sure I see a need for that restriction. It makes it hard for the CA to delegate that task. I guess they'll continue to have me do the paper form with my personal cell phone...
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No where in the contract is it stated that you must have a cell phone. Is the company paying for your minutes? If not you may want to rethink that option.
 
russtgol said:
Another poor me ASAhole thread?
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It's getting embarrassing for many of us at ASA to listen to some of these folks...We are taking Horizon aircraft and CMR flying and yet some of these folks feel the need to get on here and whine...
 
So lemme get this straight: The company is in the midst of running different solutions as many times as it takes until they're satisfied? So the theory that 'if you're senior enough to bid a trip you will get it' is false? The company runs this software over and over again until they're satisfied means what, the schedules change each time they hit the run button? What? Really? The union sold you snake oil and you bought it. Voodoo bidding. Maybe the computer will melt down and we'll be done with it.
 
Oakum_Boy said:
So lemme get this straight: The company is in the midst of running different solutions as many times as it takes until they're satisfied? So the theory that 'if you're senior enough to bid a trip you will get it' is false? The company runs this software over and over again until they're satisfied means what, the schedules change each time they hit the run button? What? Really? The union sold you snake oil and you bought it. Voodoo bidding. Maybe the computer will melt down and we'll be done with it.
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I wish something would melt down. This is gonna suck real, real hard.

(Guess we all just needed to learn how to bid, like ol' 777 says. As usual, we aren't smart enough to figure this kind of stuff out, are we?)

If only 20% of us were pissed with the results we will soon see, I would buy 777's theory. 75%? Maybe not so much. There are gonna be a whole lot of angry villagers. A whole lot.
 
Oakum_Boy said:
So lemme get this straight: The company is in the midst of running different solutions as many times as it takes until they're satisfied? So the theory that 'if you're senior enough to bid a trip you will get it' is false? The company runs this software over and over again until they're satisfied means what, the schedules change each time they hit the run button? What? Really? The union sold you snake oil and you bought it. Voodoo bidding. Maybe the computer will melt down and we'll be done with it.
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No, that's not true or accurate. I could explain it, but it's right there in the LOA for you to read yourself.
 
If the company is in cost saving's mode, I think the pilot's should be also. One way to save would be to shut my cell phone off at work. Use only land lines and see what happens.
 

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