ASA March finals

[the palm]

I want my schedule to be right. I'll give up a few extra days of suspense if it means I'll get a better schedule.

 

[DHPFLYN]

Only if the pairing was dropped by someone else, picked up, then that person called in sick.

What so you want, to be able to drop portions of trips, or not? Being able to drop comes with side effects.

Ill never understand why some people don't understand that everything is a balance. It shouldn't cost the company extra money for someone to drop their round trip.

Looks like one more thing that needs to be changed with your contract.

 

[jstyle13]

Only if the pairing was dropped by someone else, picked up, then that person called in sick.

What so you want, to be able to drop portions of trips, or not? Being able to drop comes with side effects.

Ill never understand why some people don't understand that everything is a balance. It shouldn't cost the company extra money for someone to drop their round trip.

You friggin tool. Guess your line is: that's just being on reserve...gotta pay your dues via reserve etc etc. Screw that! While I know that reserve sucks and that's just the nature of the beast (been a SCR commuter now for 4+ years) and that there are parts of is that just suck, this NMD credit crap for reserves is BS. I don't care what kind of trip it is, if you are a reserve and you get called to the airport to do anything its 3.86! PERIOD! I think it's awesome that line holders can drop partials now, but not at the expense of reserves.

 

[ILS8L]

You friggin tool. Guess your line is: that's just being on reserve...gotta pay your dues via reserve etc etc. Screw that! While I know that reserve sucks and that's just the nature of the beast (been a SCR commuter now for 4+ years) and that there are parts of is that just suck, this NMD credit crap for reserves is BS. I don't care what kind of trip it is, if you are a reserve and you get called to the airport to do anything its 3.86! PERIOD! I think it's awesome that line holders can drop partials now, but not at the expense of reserves.

One way or another. If I'm on reserve and get called in for a trip I will make min. day. Don't accept anything less. It is guaranteed by the contract and enforced by your right hand.

 

[johnpeace]

One way or another. If I'm on reserve and get called in for a trip I will make min. day. Don't accept anything less. It is guaranteed by the contract and enforced by your right hand.

No kidding.

If I see this on my schedule/pay it'll be a call to crew scheduling advising them not to assign me anything else until it's corrected.

Between the ******************** schedules, being displaced to the -200 and management's antagonism toward the pilot group...I'm almost ready to quit.

 

[JoeMerchant]

No kidding.


Between the ******************** schedules, being displaced to the -200 and management's antagonism toward the pilot group...I'm almost ready to quit.

What are you waiting for? Why would you stay? Make a statement and tell management you won't take it anymore...Quit and find someplace that treats you better....Go man...Do It!

 

[johnpeace]

What are you waiting for? Why would you stay?

Because the potential for it to become, after 6 or 8 more years, much better than this is just too high to walk away from it entirely.

That's why.

Why are you gloating and taking delight in the ********************ty situation a lot of us pilots (presumably junior to you) are finding ourselves in?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Because the potential for it to become, after 6 or 8 more years, much better than this is just too high to walk away from it entirely.

That's why.

Why are you gloating and taking delight in the ********************ty situation a lot of us pilots (presumably junior to you) are finding ourselves in?

Save me the pity story....I worked under far worse rules for a far worse management team than we have now...You have no idea what it used to be like here. This management team is IMO, the best in the regional business and they are trying to keep us profitable. For the first time ever, we aren't making a profit because of the new resets.

If you aren't happy here, then you need to find a place that makes you happy. Reserve and being junior sucks everywhere...Go to airlinepilotcentral.com and listen to the junior Delta pilots on reserve...They aren't happy either.

I don't take delight in anyone being in a bad situation, but growing our way out of this is your only real hope...or quiting...Your choice...

 

[DHPFLYN]

Save me the pity story....I worked under far worse rules for a far worse management team than we have now...You have no idea what it used to be like here. This management team is IMO, the best in the regional business and they are trying to keep us profitable. For the first time ever, we aren't making a profit because of the new resets.

If you aren't happy here, then you need to find a place that makes you happy. Reserve and being junior sucks everywhere...Go to airlinepilotcentral.com and listen to the junior Delta pilots on reserve...They aren't happy either.

I don't take delight in anyone being in a bad situation, but growing our way out of this is your only real hope...or quiting...Your choice...

Must be a regional lifer. If not you sound like you should be in management.

 

[shamrock]

One week of vacation, 21 days off in a row. 37 hrs of block. 75 hours of credit.

I <3 PBS

Where ya going with all that time off?

 

[Redan]

Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Save me the pity story....I worked under far worse rules for a far worse management team than we have now...You have no idea what it used to be like here. This management team is IMO, the best in the regional business and they are trying to keep us profitable. For the first time ever, we aren't making a profit because of the new resets.

If you aren't happy here, then you need to find a place that makes you happy. Reserve and being junior sucks everywhere...Go to airlinepilotcentral.com and listen to the junior Delta pilots on reserve...They aren't happy either.

I don't take delight in anyone being in a bad situation, but growing our way out of this is your only real hope...or quiting...Your choice...

Must be a regional lifer. If not you sound like you should be in management.

Oh he's a regional lifer alright. And while we've seen our working conditions and QOL rapidly deteriorate, he doesn't feel his colleagues are justified in striving to improve those conditions because it used to be "far worse" back in his early days. To his colleagues attempting to deal with our increasingly oppressive reserve system he frequently offers this sage advice: "if you don't like it here, leave." In fact he graced us with this advice on at least two threads this very evening.

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

When the hiring finally starts and people DO start to leave, Joe will get his. ASA will be so short staffed that scheduling will bend Joe over so far, he's gonna feel like he's in prison.

 

[probablecause]

One way or another. If I'm on reserve and get called in for a trip I will make min. day. Don't accept anything less. It is guaranteed by the contract and enforced by your right hand.

Same here.

The reserve group is own our own now. ALPA obviously does not give a S%*# about us, we know the company does not give a S%*# about us, and now apparently our more senior coworkers do not give a s%*# about us.

Let's make March an epic month for safety.

 

[johnpeace]

I hope the wheels come off the bus this summer. Apparently it's going to take a major performance hit for Charlie and Brad to recognize that the JP way of running crews does not work.

 

[Max Q]

It's not that hard. Do your job. No more. No less. Follow the rules.

If it says cruise at 247 kias, cruise at 247 kias.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Maybe Joe would support a lawsuit against ALPA. they are not representing the reserve pilots at all.

We could call it the RJDC II. Reserves just don't care.

 

[Redan]

Maybe Joe would support a lawsuit against ALPA. they are not representing the reserve pilots at all.

We could call it the RJDC II. Reserves just don't care.

Good one! I like it!

In the mean time, keep on your reps and don't support a JCBA unless it includes Pay Protection for Reserves.

 

[crj567]

Oh he's a regional lifer alright. And while we've seen our working conditions and QOL rapidly deteriorate, he doesn't feel his colleagues are justified in striving to improve those conditions because it used to be "far worse" back in his early days. To his colleagues attempting to deal with our increasingly oppressive reserve system he frequently offers this sage advice: "if you don't like it here, leave." In fact he graced us with this advice on at least two threads this very evening.

Very well put... He is just our own version of Gen Lee.. Every airline has one (whether they need one or not.)

-Everyone remember: Joe walked to work uphill both ways in the snow, with his shorts on fire! (And he made all such sacrifices for every one of us youngsters!)

-We should erect a statue.

 

[OCP]

SPINELESS! Is Joe's middle name. Sacrifices... That's him. He rides on all the gains made by people willing to take a stand to improve life at this airline. Yet he complains about how bad all these gains have been for everyone and how great his life is.
He is the classic mix of the "me" generation and baby boomer. He wants it all, but you shouldn't complain because he had it SO MUCH WORSE THAN YOU. BS.

 

[Abernathy]

Save me the pity story....I worked under far worse rules for a far worse management team than we have now...You have no idea what it used to be like here.

Please tell us how bad you had it. Start by telling us:

A) How many years in the right seat?
B) *Of those years, how many in the right seat on RSV?
C) How many years in the left seat on RSV?
D) Of those years on reserve, did you always work every day you were on call?

That way we'll know exactly where you are coming from. Otherwise, it's hard to tell what you really do know about how bad it can be.