ASA Managment wants contract done by end of May...

[WWEfan]

The fact that you guys are even entertaining Duh-angelo's comments is laughable. High 5 to him for bringing out the stupid in people and giving us all entertainment.

Too bad our ALPA web board doesnt get this much attention from our pilots

 

[John Pennekamp]

Seriously. Why do y'all even debate this fool? He's a Comair pilot for crying out loud. He's already caved twice and is about the be the new whore of the industry when he gets sold to MESA. He's just trying to flame y'all into another inane debate. DON'T RESPOND TO HIM AND HE'LL GO AWAY!

 

[D'Angelo]

a game which is foolish sweptback...what you are saying is typical union emotion driven crap...vote the contract, not the game

Thats the smartest thing an ASA pilot has said in months!

 

[ERJFO]

Thats the smartest thing an ASA pilot has said in months!

You wouldn't know what "smart" was if it hit you in the face.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Ooh, ooh, let me, let me!!!! Hit him in the face that is.

 

[D'Angelo]

The fact that you guys are even entertaining Duh-angelo's comments is laughable. High 5 to him for bringing out the stupid in people and giving us all entertainment.

Too bad our ALPA web board doesnt get this much attention from our pilots

Thats hilarious how you say your tagline is Comair sold us out. HA! Why should we fall on our swords for you? The moment that we do what benefits us and not you you scream bloody murder!! Thats quite ironic don't you think? Last time I checked our job description it doesn't say anything about sacrificing our careers for ASA people. We vote how we want. You vote how you want. Its really quite simple. Hell even ALPO doesn't expect us to fall on our sword solely for the benefit of your group. Not that anything is worth falling on your sword for anymore. I actually think its a beautiful thing seeing people start to think for themselves for a change. Now the next step is petitioning for another union to represent us, confusing people, and not getting enough votes for either union. That way you can throw both their as*es to the curb!! Its too bad the NMB and ALPO is too cowardly to allow a straight up vote every year if you want to keep your representation or not. The time now has come to abandon unions and go with straight up arbitration. That way a 3rd party can rule on what is fair. Cooler heads prevail and you meet in the middle. It most certainly ends all the time wasting management low ball and union "shoot for the moon" offers. Arbitration here we come! Time for the white house to "grow a sack" and remove all strike provisions from the RLA. Since everyone is easily replaceable now a days a strike is now a futile effort. HOOAH FOR ARBITRATION!!!

 

[737 Pylt]

Thats hilarious how you say your tagline is Comair sold us out. HA! Why should we fall on our swords for you? The moment that we do what benefits us and not you you scream bloody murder!! Thats quite ironic don't you think? Last time I checked our job description it doesn't say anything about sacrificing our careers for ASA people. We vote how we want. You vote how you want. Its really quite simple. Hell even ALPO doesn't expect us to fall on our sword solely for the benefit of your group. Not that anything is worth falling on your sword for anymore. I actually think its a beautiful thing seeing people start to think for themselves for a change. Now the next step is petitioning for another union to represent us, confusing people, and not getting enough votes for either union. That way you can throw both their as*es to the curb!! Its too bad the NMB and ALPO is too cowardly to allow a straight up vote every year if you want to keep your representation or not. The time now has come to abandon unions and go with straight up arbitration. That way a 3rd party can rule on what is fair. Cooler heads prevail and you meet in the middle. It most certainly ends all the time wasting management low ball and union "shoot for the moon" offers. Arbitration here we come! Time for the white house to "grow a sack" and remove all strike provisions from the RLA. Since everyone is easily replaceable now a days a strike is now a futile effort. HOOAH FOR ARBITRATION!!!

How goes the F/A training? Are you ready to walk in to their job when they all strike?? How about donating more of your pay for DCI mgmt's bonuses??
You are truly a clueless moron!
737

 

[D'Angelo]

How goes the F/A training? Are you ready to walk in to their job when they all strike?? How about donating more of your pay for DCI mgmt's bonuses??
You are truly a clueless moron!
737

Never have done F/A training personally. No worries though they will be dealt with in time. Once the paycut kicks in we will all be breathing easier and living it up. No one will need to replace striking F/As because there won't be one. I do ask you this though why are you so against arbitration. Drop the union garbage rhetoric for a few seconds and truly think about it. What bad could come of it? This is a win win situation. Instead of wasting years on negotiations you can simply throw it on the arbitrators lap. You have a panel made of neutral parties, pilot parties and management parties. They figure out what the fairest deal possible is. No more falling on your sword and holding a picket sign like a tard while everyone else swoops in to take your flying the minute you liquidate. Lets hear some good reasons against arbitration instead of the typical union rhetoric. Remember this is not the old days anymore.

 

[atrdriver]

No more falling on your sword and holding a picket sign like a tard...

This from the KING of the tards.

 

[Lolikoka]

That's not how arbitration works

The time now has come to abandon unions and go with straight up arbitration. That way a 3rd party can rule on what is fair. Cooler heads prevail and you meet in the middle. HOOAH FOR ARBITRATION!!!

That's not how arbitration works - at least not how it's been presented by the McCain bill to work in the airline industry. The arbitrator doesn't come up with middle ground - he picks one side's proposal. Period. It's all or nothing. That's not good for anybody. The world works on negotiation and compromise and adjustment. I don't want an all or nothing gamble determining my future, so I don't want mandatory arbitration in the airline industry.

 

[D'Angelo]

That's not how arbitration works - at least not how it's been presented by the McCain bill to work in the airline industry. The arbitrator doesn't come up with middle ground - he picks one side's proposal. Period. It's all or nothing. That's not good for anybody. The world works on negotiation and compromise and adjustment. I don't want an all or nothing gamble determining my future, so I don't want mandatory arbitration in the airline industry.

Thats why ALPO should be sweet talking more politicians. Get an arbitration method where you meet in the middle. Anyway if the arbitrator chooses the company side then obviously the union proposal was just a ridiculous shoot for the moon proposal anyway. Lets go McCain!!!!

 

[blueridge71]

Time for the white house to "grow a sack" and remove all strike provisions from the RLA. Since everyone is easily replaceable now a days a strike is now a futile effort. HOOAH FOR ARBITRATION!!!

1. The White House cannot remove all the strike provisions from the RLA. Call your Congressman, or your civics teacher, or Schoolhouse Rock, and they can explain how a bill becomes a law.

2. It takes three months to train one class of pilots. Is that easily replaceable in a strike?

 

[D'Angelo]

1. The White House cannot remove all the strike provisions from the RLA. Call your Congressman, or your civics teacher, or Schoolhouse Rock, and they can explain how a bill becomes a law.

2. It takes three months to train one class of pilots. Is that easily replaceable in a strike?

Thats what im saying they need to grow a pair and start getting the committee underway, get a bill and vote on it. It will take time however falling on the sword is a foolish game which I nor many other pilots want any part of. This is shown by the votes on numerous T/As in the last few months. The fact that strikes have been allowed to go on as long as they have is pure insanity. I didn't say pilots were easily replaceable in a strike I say that they are very easily replaceable in a liquidation or contract cancellation. Its no secret there are an abundance of RJs out there right now. You can strike but there are tons of companys ready to snatch your flying the second you lose it. I highly doubt the White House would let ASA pilots strike anyway considering the positon Delta is in. They didn't let American pilots strike back in 98 and I highly doubt theyd let a subcontractor strike in this economy. In the case of someone like Delta going on strike that means immediate liquidation and a free for all. Theres no such thing as struck work when the company no longer exists. Sure you can make a bit of noise with a strike now a days however with the glut of flying and how easy it is to cancel contracts its more like a whimper.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Enough, Just ban this guy. I don't think he works for Comair. If so he is jsut a coward, cause noone posts stuff this rediculous on the ALPA board.

 

[Smacktard]

Enough, Just ban this guy. I don't think he works for Comair. If so he is jsut a coward, cause noone posts stuff this rediculous on the ALPA board.

Well you can't ban him for having a 'ridiculous' opinion, but you can ignore him.