crjskipper
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- Feb 13, 2006
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Wasnt trying to flame. FO told me he had heard that talks broke down cause of the strike, thats all. Plus - isnt Charlie negotiating - he is senior management so why would he have to go talk to senior management. Plus it was right before the picketing. He is there instead of Scott because he is senior management -oh well.
Frustrated with the union - hell yes. We are screwed either way. We stand firm on no 700 pay cut, guess what - Jerry gives all the 700 flying to SW. Dont blame SW. Our fellow union 'brothers' at MESA, CHQ, COM, PIN and several others with lower rates will jump on our flyng in a heartbeat. Look at EXJet, they were giving us crap not long ago because we threatened to take their flying. Now they are taking west coast flying.
The 700 pay rates today are jacked anyway. Until the 700 all ASA rates were linear - same percentage increase each year. Then with the 700 we got the inflated top end rate. The 5 year guy gets a buck or two more, but the 18 year guy (itself over the 15 year top we always had) gets an 18 buck raise. That payscale was a sellout in my opinion. I am not advocating a cut, but if you bring the top (15-18) year rate down you dont effect many.
So yes, I am very disgruntled about our union. If we stand our ground ( and I think we should ) another ALPA carrier will gladly take our flying. And dont blame SW for being nonunion. They have much better wages and work rules than most ALPA carriers that threaten us. We are represented by a union that could care less about what happens to us. Not our own alpa guys - but our union in general.
Frustrated with the union - hell yes. We are screwed either way. We stand firm on no 700 pay cut, guess what - Jerry gives all the 700 flying to SW. Dont blame SW. Our fellow union 'brothers' at MESA, CHQ, COM, PIN and several others with lower rates will jump on our flyng in a heartbeat. Look at EXJet, they were giving us crap not long ago because we threatened to take their flying. Now they are taking west coast flying.
The 700 pay rates today are jacked anyway. Until the 700 all ASA rates were linear - same percentage increase each year. Then with the 700 we got the inflated top end rate. The 5 year guy gets a buck or two more, but the 18 year guy (itself over the 15 year top we always had) gets an 18 buck raise. That payscale was a sellout in my opinion. I am not advocating a cut, but if you bring the top (15-18) year rate down you dont effect many.
So yes, I am very disgruntled about our union. If we stand our ground ( and I think we should ) another ALPA carrier will gladly take our flying. And dont blame SW for being nonunion. They have much better wages and work rules than most ALPA carriers that threaten us. We are represented by a union that could care less about what happens to us. Not our own alpa guys - but our union in general.