ASA laying the smack down on pilots

[CFI2766]

It concerns me that someone actually thinks this is the case. Even the Kool-Aid the company is passing around doesn't involve us being short on cash. Where you got this idea beats me.

Clearly, my sarcasm needs work. Kinda thought that one was softly delivered when I reread; my apologies. I've a feeling that ASA is more than adequately funded, especially in light of starting a new venture in SE Asia.


Possibly, just possibly, this 'crackdown' is the work of a misguided individual seeking to fill a void in the CP office. The timing is, well, odd.

 

[ASApuppy]

In other news, a lot of us moved up 5-7 seniority numbers over the course of one month. Not bad.

Don't get used to it. You will be moving backward after a month or two as the numbers you moved up are from pilots who volunteered for the LOSA observations.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Don't get used to it. You will be moving backward after a month or two as the numbers you moved up are from pilots who volunteered for the LOSA observations.

That's not how seniority lists work, but I understand your point.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Possibly, just possibly, this 'crackdown' is the work of a misguided individual seeking to fill a void in the CP office. The timing is, well, odd.

What purpose would a crackdown serve?

 

[777forever]

I think that is the general consensus even in this thread. There are worse places to work, but things appear to be moving backwards as of late. Maybe its just the cpo or maybe its flightops. RSV 200 ATL is rough and the company refuses to mitigate the problem. They are rolling in cash but wont raise line values to a reasonable level, allowing relief to RSVs and a bit more dough to lineholders.

I definitely see that the ATL RSVs are getting the beat down. But us IAD guys, especially the ones that commute to reserve, are begging for flighttime and just not getting it.

IMO, the company will continue refusing to mitigate the problem until our block hrs increase. They are saving ALOT of money by keeping line values low, red arrowing the heck out of the month, and having reserves fly the open-time. Basically capping the amount of flying the more expensive senior pilots can do and letting cheaper junior reserves fly more.

I doubt they will increase line values until nearly all reserves meet or exceed 75 hrs. I heard one of Brad's pet peeves are under utilized reserves. Pay them 75 so fly them 75 I guess.

Possibly, just possibly, this 'crackdown' is the work of a misguided individual seeking to fill a void in the CP office. The timing is, well, odd.

You talking about current ACP RC?

Don't get used to it. You will be moving backward after a month or two as the numbers you moved up are from pilots who volunteered for the LOSA observations.

In the April Seniority Report it stated 7 resignations

 

[LazyLightnin']

In the April Seniority Report it stated 7 resignations

Well, one was a termination, but that's irrelevant.

 

[asayankee]

I definitely see that the ATL RSVs are getting the beat down. But us IAD guys, especially the ones that commute to reserve, are begging for flighttime and just not getting it.

IMO, the company will continue refusing to mitigate the problem until our block hrs increase. They are saving ALOT of money by keeping line values low, red arrowing the heck out of the month, and having reserves fly the open-time. Basically capping the amount of flying the more expensive senior pilots can do and letting cheaper junior reserves fly more.

I doubt they will increase line values until nearly all reserves meet or exceed 75 hrs. I heard one of Brad's pet peeves are under utilized reserves. Pay them 75 so fly them 75 I guess.



You talking about current ACP RC?



In the April Seniority Report it stated 7 resignations

I hope like hell that "RC" doesn't end up as ATL chief pilot. That guy is already on some kind of serious power trip....and he just got there.

He is definitely not somebody that is gonna have the pilots back.

 

[asayankee]

Well, one was a termination, but that's irrelevant.

Somebody actually got terminated by ASA? That's impressive....it's not an easy task. They must have REALLY screwed up!

 

[Long Time Gone]

...lawyers new they would not win a law suite!

I hate it when lawyers don't win new law suites. Dang it.

 

[maxcackel]

I hate it when lawyers don't win new law suites. Dang it.

That's awesome. I wonder how people misspell so many words with spell check and then BAM.

 

[StrykerFL]

Here are a couple of interesting links regarding punitive sick policies:

http://www.teamster.org/content/punitive-attendance-policies-regional-air-carriers

http://www.buffalonews.com/2009/09/05/786380/colgan-pilots-say-many-felt-pressure.html

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/new...sRaisedBeforeCongressionalPanel_201201-1.html

The following is a quote from John Prater (ALPA) to the Subcommittee on Aviation:

"To underscore the final conclusion, we would note with some irony that the media has recently reported on the onerous sick leave and fatigue policies at Colgan Airlines, Pinnacle Airlines and their parent company Pinnacle Corporation. Despite the NTSB hearings earlier this year which confirmed Colgan’s adverse behavior in this regard, our members confirm that those companies continue to take a hard line with pilots who call in too sick or too fatigued to fly. In fact, approximately one-third of Pinnacle pilots are reprimanded for sick leave and fatigue-related absences annually. This demonstrates the fallacies in Colgan and Pinnacle staffing and scheduling practices and shows how archaic flight/duty regulations are which allow these unsafe practices to exist. Mainline management often refuses to intervene with the onerous practices of these so-called private vendors, despite the fact that they book their passengers on them and have their liveries painted on the regional airline’s aircraft."

 

[PBRstreetgang]

You told us about him a couple of years ago and we didn't listen. You were right.

ASA mgmt was SO bad he seemed like a good thing. He is good at his job.

He is very good and has first cabin council:
http://www.fordharrison.com/
He will take your contract, find ANY chink in your armor and drive a wedge into your wallet. Thank God he is your problem now! If you don't hate PBS now, wait, its Brads baby, and you will hate it soon enough.
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I definitely see that the ATL RSVs are getting the beat down. But us IAD guys, especially the ones that commute to reserve, are begging for flighttime and just not getting it.

IMO, the company will continue refusing to mitigate the problem until our block hrs increase. They are saving ALOT of money by keeping line values low, red arrowing the heck out of the month, and having reserves fly the open-time. Basically capping the amount of flying the more expensive senior pilots can do and letting cheaper junior reserves fly more.

I doubt they will increase line values until nearly all reserves meet or exceed 75 hrs. I heard one of Brad's pet peeves are under utilized reserves. Pay them 75 so fly them 75 I guess.



You talking about current ACP RC?



In the April Seniority Report it stated 7 resignations

You are starting to get it now. Brad hates/loves reserves, he hates the thought of a pilot at home watching Oprah on the companies dime, but loves the thought of working the same pilot right to 74.99 hrs and then letting him/her sit. When you couple the flexibility of a pilot who has literally no work rules and the ability to be used from 74.99hrs to 100.00 hrs a month, he gets a major chub. He developed the program on non-union SKYW and will perfect it on ALPA ASA. He will pit the senior guys against the junior, Capts against F/Os, lineholders against reserves and ultimately throw the mechanics, F/As, and the guy who dumps the garbage at Popeyes into the mix too. Divide and conquer, F&H specialty, ask me how I know? Been there and experienced it first hand. If you do not get a ALPA war party together you will be caught flat footed and get boned royally(just like we did).
Good luck(it wont help against $1000.00 hr attnys)
PBR

 

[Abernathy]

Why do we have Bubba and Hillbilly Joe across the table from Ford and Harrison? I've always wondered why we don't have professional negotiators and attorneys across the table.

 

[Speedtape]

Why do we have Bubba and Hillbilly Joe across the table from Ford and Harrison? I've always wondered why we don't have professional negotiators and attorneys across the table.

The ALPA attorneys may take exception to the name of Bubba and Hillbilly Joe.

 

[pipi]

You are starting to get it now. Brad hates/loves reserves, he hates the thought of a pilot at home watching Oprah on the companies dime, but loves the thought of working the same pilot right to 74.99 hrs and then letting him/her sit. When you couple the flexibility of a pilot who has literally no work rules and the ability to be used from 74.99hrs to 100.00 hrs a month, he gets a major chub. He developed the program on non-union SKYW and will perfect it on ALPA ASA. He will pit the senior guys against the junior, Capts against F/Os, lineholders against reserves and ultimately throw the mechanics, F/As, and the guy who dumps the garbage at Popeyes into the mix too. Divide and conquer, F&H specialty, ask me how I know? Been there and experienced it first hand. If you do not get a ALPA war party together you will be caught flat footed and get boned royally(just like we did).
Good luck(it wont help against $1000.00 hr attnys)
PBR

I thought things at Skywest were peachy..??

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I thought things at Skywest were peachy..??

If you have read more than one of my posts, you would take note that the kool aid had not hit my mug. In fact I have used my mug to club kool aid drinkers heads. SKYW ain't Messa, but the gap is closing thanks to Chip Away.
PBR

 

[CX880]

If you have read more than one of my posts, you would take note that the kool aid had not hit my mug. In fact I have used my mug to club kool aid drinkers heads. SKYW ain't Messa, but the gap is closing thanks to Chip Away.
PBR

Your company has about a billion dollars in the bank, major airline status. Yet, you still make poverty wages same as the rest of us regional pilots who's companies have a couple of million in the bank on a good month. That's what I call either a pilot group drowned in that sweet sweet Western sunshine koolaide or a pilot group with no balls. Get a union and get something you guys deserve so the rest of us that work for companies with no billion dollars can actually look up to.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Your company has about a billion dollars in the bank, major airline status. Yet, you still make poverty wages same as the rest of us regional pilots who's companies have a couple of million in the bank on a good month. That's what I call either a pilot group drowned in that sweet sweet Western sunshine koolaide or a pilot group with no balls. Get a union and get something you guys deserve so the rest of us that work for companies with no billion dollars can actually look up to.

And then there's this guy...

 

[CX880]

And then there's this guy...

if you guys could only bottle that stuff.