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right, but why does it HAVE to suck? why not make reserve bearable? Just because it sucked for you back then why does it have to now? there are many things they could do-for instance using reserves for their intended purpose so we didn't work every single day and get that 4am wakeup call every day and get extended into 5 and 6 day trips because of hidden open time


So are you saying the company violates the contract OR are they working to the letter of the contract?
 
Who is the FO rep? They only awarded 274 lines for July for ATL CRJ FO and there were 294 published.

"Just to let everyone know - particularly the ATL CRJ FO’s and the ATL CR7 FO’s - just before the July line bid closed yesterday we were instructed to withhold from the initial line award the ATL CRJ and CR7 FO lines that were awarded to line check CA’s. By the questions I am receiving this morning I can tell no messsage has been sent to the pilot group yet, so I just wanted to let you know why those FO lines were not awarded. Listed below are the line numbers that were withheld from the FO line awards and not awarded.

CR7 FO lines withheld and not awarded: 14, 31, 54, 65, 69, 74, 123 and 141

ATL CRJ FO lines withheld and not awarded: 3, 5, 45, 47, 48, 96, 112, 143, 158, 159, 177, 189, 205, 209, 214, 225, 234, 239, 269, 283"
 
UH correction miss scheduling lady, they were awarded to Training Pilots NOT Line Check Pilots. We fly as CA on the equipment we bid.
 
Can Atlantic Southeast release anything that they don't have rescind and have a do over???????????????????

Line Awards uh oh do over!

Bid Awards uh oh do over!

Domicile opening or closing uh oh do over!

COME ON DOES ANYONE CHECK ANYTHING BEFORE IT GETS RELEASED!!!!!!!
 
I'm saying the contract language is so loose that they can pretty much bend the contract to do whatever they want to do.
 
UH correction miss scheduling lady, they were awarded to Training Pilots NOT Line Check Pilots. We fly as CA on the equipment we bid.

Incorrect. Those lines were awarded to the LCPs. The FO line was left empty to leave a space to be filled with FOs coming from training.

The way it works is they run the captain lines first, and withhold the lines awarded to the LCPs from the FO bid. Those lines are then used for IOE/SOE training.
 
Can Atlantic Southeast release anything that they don't have rescind and have a do over???????????????????

Line Awards uh oh do over!

Bid Awards uh oh do over!

Domicile opening or closing uh oh do over!

COME ON DOES ANYONE CHECK ANYTHING BEFORE IT GETS RELEASED!!!!!!!

This wasn't a do-over. They didn't allow FOs to bid for those LCP lines due to increased training need in July (furlough recalls, etc.)
 
I'm saying the contract language is so loose that they can pretty much bend the contract to do whatever they want to do.

So the company is operating by the contract. Then tell your reps to fix it during the next Section 6.
 
So the company is operating by the contract. Then tell your reps to fix it during the next Section 6.

I am beginning to wonder whether anything ever really gets "fixed" in any contract... We just keep fighting the same battles-and losing ground.
 
I am beginning to wonder whether anything ever really gets "fixed" in any contract... We just keep fighting the same battles-and losing ground.

So you are saying this contract is no better than the first ASA contract? Are you simply ignorant or are you stupid? Do you even know the difference in the contracts?
 
So you are saying this contract is no better than the first ASA contract? Are you simply ignorant or are you stupid? Do you even know the difference in the contracts?

Da reedin' ain't beez so gooooood..........................

Where's Crash when ya need him?
 
must not have been here during the good ole days huh..

what happened to the TMT lines, didnt they list them in the bid package each month during the "hiring" phase a few years ago???? same purpose allowing IOE I thought.
 

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