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crj567 said:
why?

-are you frightened that they may be able to read your thoughts? Are the little green guys still after your lucky charms? Who the hell cares what is posted here?

-maybe there is some super-secret plot by mgmt. To be mean to people who post nasty things here. Maybe there are little gnomes living in your shorts!
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wtf? ...
 
If any of you were furloughed right now and just got a PIC job flying 135 in a piston twin and they asked you to give at least 6 months before you moved on and then you got recalled in less than 6 months would you bypass? The way things are looking over there I am wondering if I really would rather hang out in a relaxed environment getting PIC multi time with a scheduling department that works with your time off requests than go back and get abused... I am thinking to wait until they get more pilots recalled and stretch out that 6 months here so I don't burn any bridges but I am worried that if I pass up the next recall that it might be a longer time before they got to a 3rd because of how things play out after the summer.

SIC twin turbine vs. PIC twin piston....??? they both have pros and cons... anyone there have any experience in this they would like to share. I'd be grateful for info I havnt though of yet. They pay either way would be about the same +/- 5K but it sounds like QOL right now coming back would be a [insert creative swearing here]

Thanks guys... sorry if this isn't the best thread to insert this in but I figured all the complaining in this thread could tie into what I am looking for.

Be safe out there!
 
sayrejm said:
If any of you were furloughed right now and just got a PIC job flying 135 in a piston twin and they asked you to give at least 6 months before you moved on and then you got recalled in less than 6 months would you bypass? The way things are looking over there I am wondering if I really would rather hang out in a relaxed environment getting PIC multi time with a scheduling department that works with your time off requests than go back and get abused... I am thinking to wait until they get more pilots recalled and stretch out that 6 months here so I don't burn any bridges but I am worried that if I pass up the next recall that it might be a longer time before they got to a 3rd because of how things play out after the summer.

SIC twin turbine vs. PIC twin piston....??? they both have pros and cons... anyone there have any experience in this they would like to share. I'd be grateful for info I havnt though of yet. They pay either way would be about the same +/- 5K but it sounds like QOL right now coming back would be a [insert creative swearing here]

Thanks guys... sorry if this isn't the best thread to insert this in but I figured all the complaining in this thread could tie into what I am looking for.

Be safe out there!
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I think the PIC will benefit you far more. You will learn more-and have to put up with far less b.s.... There are zillions of people running around with SIC turbine these days-doesn't seem like that much of a plus anymore.
 
sayrejm said:
If any of you were furloughed right now and just got a PIC job flying 135 in a piston twin and they asked you to give at least 6 months before you moved on and then you got recalled in less than 6 months would you bypass? The way things are looking over there I am wondering if I really would rather hang out in a relaxed environment getting PIC multi time with a scheduling department that works with your time off requests than go back and get abused... I am thinking to wait until they get more pilots recalled and stretch out that 6 months here so I don't burn any bridges but I am worried that if I pass up the next recall that it might be a longer time before they got to a 3rd because of how things play out after the summer.

SIC twin turbine vs. PIC twin piston....??? they both have pros and cons... anyone there have any experience in this they would like to share. I'd be grateful for info I havnt though of yet. They pay either way would be about the same +/- 5K but it sounds like QOL right now coming back would be a [insert creative swearing here]

Thanks guys... sorry if this isn't the best thread to insert this in but I figured all the complaining in this thread could tie into what I am looking for.

Be safe out there!
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It all depends on what your long-term goals are. If you want to move to a major, you need turbine PIC for most jobs. Does this 135 operator have any turbine aircraft you can move to?

The schedule will suck if you come back now, no question, but the management is doing things to grow the company, so upgrades will come eventually, and probably quicker than if you went to a place like Colgan and made 1st year pay all over again.

It's really your call.
 
James,

Depends on which job has better pay and benefits.
 
And as far as the July lines, the only good thing I can say is that there are two differnt kinds of suck in this business and at least this is the better of the two.

With that being said, I believe July will not work as is. Our performance is going to be stuck in the J along with quite a bit of pooh.
 
a man gave you a job and simply asked you to stay 6 months.

be careful with those bridges. ASA wont hesitate to furlough you again if it benefits them. you may need another job one day.

there will be plenty of chances to come back to ASA. or at least talk to your boss. tell him the situation. Tell him you are willing to stay because you gave your word and you wouldn't want to put him in a bind. He could say it's no big deal and be okay with you going back to ASA.

Man up, be honest. If I were the boss...that would go a long way with me.

Just my 2 cents.
 
No Delay said:
a man gave you a job and simply asked you to stay 6 months.

be careful with those bridges. ASA wont hesitate to furlough you again if it benefits them. you may need another job one day.

there will be plenty of chances to come back to ASA. or at least talk to your boss. tell him the situation. Tell him you are willing to stay because you gave your word and you wouldn't want to put him in a bind. He could say it's no big deal and be okay with you going back to ASA.

Man up, be honest. If I were the boss...that would go a long way with me.

Just my 2 cents.
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James,

That's a much better answer than mine. Glad I don't get paid for this kind of crap. I'd owe you money.
 
777forever said:
What's everybody's reserve list looking like? Its looking ugly for 200 FOs. 0 Available today and tomorrow. If someone misses a commuter flight or calls in sick the whole operation will be thrown off. If more than one pilot calls in sick results may prove disastrous. Hear's to hoping everyone is healthy this summer!
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I know three sick captains right now...
 
I was browsing the lines and there look like lots of very fatiguing trips in there. Very long days and really short overnights followed by another killer day and short overnight were pretty common. Then on the other end of the spectrum there were the 30 plus hour layovers. I just feel like cost and operational performance seem to have taken priority over safety.
 
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