ASA In Five Years? Or Even 2.5 Years?

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This should help you guys sleep at night

http://www.airfinancejournal.com/Article/2888629/SkyWest-plans-large-regional-jet-order.html

Old news. They have been talking for a couple of years about this one.

Next.

 

[Maui Jim]

One of the most selfish attitudes I have ever seen... If I'm not mistaken, there are some Comair pilots with your level of seniority who are back in the right seat. With that attitude, karma might come back to bite you right in the arse!

Could happen.

 

[JoeMerchant]

No one is worried about you except you. Maybe you should start to budget for $70K a year and prepare for only 11 days off a month. As for this junior pilot, my future prosperity is no longer dependent on flying orbitz passengers around 5 times a day. Good luck.

Heck I'm budgeted for 40k a year and I would encourage EVERYONE to leave below their means in this business with this economy....Did you get out of the biz? What is your future prosperity dependent on now?

 

[JoeMerchant]

One of the most selfish attitudes I have ever seen... If I'm not mistaken, there are some Comair pilots with your level of seniority who are back in the right seat. With that attitude, karma might come back to bite you right in the arse!

Darn right it could happen to me. I see it taking 10 years or so to get to that point at which time I'll be ready to retire if necessary....I'm not being selfish, I'm pointing out that the junior folks will be hurt a lot more than us senior lifers at this point. If I was being selfish, I would just sit back and watch the slow sinking of the Titanic...

The ones who will get hurt the most are actually the ones who are trying to move on....Unless you can check one of the special "boxes", you need to upgrade and get PIC time...

 

[JoeMerchant]

And with you just sitting around making your "living", you have caused half the problem. You talk about YOU having time before the "trouble" comes to YOU cause YOU are so senior and the junior guys being in the trouble. The way it always works with the ASA senior guys is to screw everybody below cause you have made such a life and dependence to be living on a company that requires to live off a company that feeds it (Delta/United).

Either it's time to move on (quit living outside your means) or finally come together and help the fellow employees (senior or junior) out as a whole.

How did I cause this? What do you want me to do?

 

[Flyguy1226]

Losing those 8 CRJ700s, wouldn't that just take us back to the original number of CRJ7s that we had, since we got 8 from Horizon?

Now, losing 6 CRJ2s, that might create some issues...

I just don't want to see anyone get displaced, downgraded, pushed back on reserve, etc.

 

[bigshooter107]

At five crews per plane that's about 80 guys without a home, atleast we are adequately staffed, until uncle Rico and the Taliban "fix the glitch".

 

[Data]

At five crews per plane that's about 80 guys without a home, atleast we are adequately staffed, until uncle Rico and the Taliban "fix the glitch".

What glitch? 5 crews per plane, you can expect that going forward as well. Welcome to the new norm, same as the old norm.

 

[777forever]

Nobody should be furloughed. XJT needs to stop hiring immediately and start flowing excess ASA pilots that way. ASA Downgrades will probably happen because now XJT has a damn good reason to put fences up. SLI will be very interesting....

 

[centralpilot]

Nobody should be furloughed... SLI will be very interesting....

I doubt SLI will happen anytime soon; the contract negotiations are not progressing well.

 

[General Lee]

Every airline has a Gen. Lee....

-Apologies, folks-our is acting up again.

Thanks man, I guess Joe and I are brothers....

Joe is actually right on one point, this isn't only a problem at Delta, it is a problem due to high oil prices and the inefficiencies of 50 seat RJs, and also now 70 seat RJs. Also, Regionals tend to go for pay instead of scope in contracts because of the lower pay associated with that job.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[777forever]

I doubt SLI will happen anytime soon; the contract negotiations are not progressing well.

Then some 'hostages' will definitely be taken then. That or the go be a new hire at xjt but kerp your asa seniority

 

[cybourg10]

Nobody should be furloughed. XJT needs to stop hiring immediately and start flowing excess ASA pilots that way. ASA Downgrades will probably happen because now XJT has a damn good reason to put fences up. SLI will be very interesting....

Most of you guys have been screaming for fences to be put up to shield your 700/900s from us. I wanted no fences from the beginning with all open positions available the day after the SLI comes out. Now some of you are worried about downgrades and reserve and all of the sudden want no fences at all, funny how that happens. XJT will continue to upgrade and hire while ASA becomes stagnant. SLI and JCBA are atleast 12 months away if not more than that. I don't expect to see any cross pollination for years which is too bad for us that want ATL. I will probably hold XJT CA before I could bid ATL FO. 500 new hires this year for XJT, so which is it fences or no fences?

ASA can't flush excess pilots over to XJT unless they want to be new hires at the bottom.

 

[Dannone]

I am not a lifer at ASA (hopefully), but I have been there for 11 years. As much as mainline pilots want growth at mainline and it looks like it is headed back in that direction which is good, they should be paying attention to the fact that 10 year regional pilots who have not been hired because of age 65, 9-11, economic meltdowns, etc are getting bypassed for FO's with no pic!! I know of many, many examples of this first hand. For no other reason than it makes the mainline job that much cheaper (for lack of a better word). This doesn't even bring into account that there are how many Compass kids going to Delta now? Those backpacks are going to look really good with those double breasted jackets this winter!!!

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Losing those 8 CRJ700s, wouldn't that just take us back to the original number of CRJ7s that we had, since we got 8 from Horizon?

Now, losing 6 CRJ2s, that might create some issues...

I just don't want to see anyone get displaced, downgraded, pushed back on reserve, etc.

You are correct that once the 8 CRJ700s leave we will be back to our orig number of CRJ7s. The only shimmer of hope is that we can find work for our CRJ2s even if they are doing at risk flying. I don't see Brad just letting them sit at the A Tech doing nothing.