ASA getting RJ 900's

[voetsak]

Man, you really are funny. I have actually been on this forum nonstop for the last 5 years. I sleep 2 hours a night, and then drink 8 Red Bulls before I start looking at Flightinfo at 5 am until 12 noon. Then I pass out for 3 hours in my own sweat and vomit. The wife comes home from work and starts yelling at me at around 4 pm. Before I shower, my wife and I make out hot and heavy, and then we eat Wendy's potatos and triple cheeseburgers (the wife has a double cheeseburger). Then I get back on flightinfo from 7 pm to 4 am. What a great day. Oh yeah, and I fly a couple of 4 day trips every once and awhile..... Have a great one dude! Rock on!

Bye Bye--General Lee

man just the time of your post says it all.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

General, it has 9 additional seats!

When commuters flew 30 seat airplanes and wanted 50 seats, the argument was "gosh its only 20 more seats." Then the 70's came along..."its only 20 more seats." Now the 79 seaters..."its only 9 more seats." Somebody's got to draw the line or else this crap will continue with same argument..."its only X number more seats." Eventually we'll have 200 seat RJs. Keep the big jets at mainline and maybe you wont be stuck at ASA (or another commuter) for the rest of your career.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Wtf?

According to Bombardier Mesa is the only one getting 900's

[URL="http://www.bombardier.com/en/3_0/3_...tober_31_05.pdf"]http://www.bombardier.com/en/3_0/3_...tober_31_05.pdf[/URL]

What? BS info put out on this forum? This cannot be, oh god... stop the insanity.......

 

[rjcap]

When commuters flew 30 seat airplanes and wanted 50 seats, the argument was "gosh its only 20 more seats." Then the 70's came along..."its only 20 more seats." Now the 79 seaters..."its only 9 more seats." Somebody's got to draw the line or else this crap will continue with same argument..."its only X number more seats." Eventually we'll have 200 seat RJs. Keep the big jets at mainline and maybe you wont be stuck at ASA (or another commuter) for the rest of your career.

Who do you think pays for this arbitrary seat limit. Pilots. They pay for it in pay and work rule concessions. Managment doesn't care who flies the aircraft they just take advantage of the discontent amongst pilots who seem to think that one aircraft is more worthy then another.

Divide and Conquer. As pilots, we have been conquered.

Thanks ALPA.

 

[WSurf]

If you wanna see what happens to the Delta family just look at how it was handled at US Airways! Delta mainline guys will give in too more concessions! They will at first threaten to strike, but in the end.... they will cave in like everyone else! Delta will bring in more 700/900's and Delta's senior Pilots will sell out there junior guys (Eating Young to survive), and then give the junior pilots Jets For Jobs at the regionals, that is once Delta starts to furlough due to returning airplanes.
The times have changed.... It doesn't take a ex-F-15 pilot to fly a commerical airplane anymore! We are seeing 400hr and less pilots jumping right into regional jets! Management knows it, and tons of people are ready to fly the same aircraft for half the money... Sad I know!!
Don't get me wrong I hope that Delta can hold the line!! I agree with GL, all this is making my chance to get to Delta, United Con, etc. almost impossible.
Good Luck!! You'll need it!!
I am with rjcap!!! Can I get my ALPA money back since 2000?

 

[DwayneWorthless]

Alpa

WSurf,

NO. you can't get your ALPA money back. YOU must PAY YOUR
DUES

 

[atlcrashpad]

Duane,

You still look like Dr. Phil.

 

[svcta]

Pay reductions. We all know that there could be a chance of bringing the rates up later. You need to get the planes first on the property, and then go for the pay.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Get them on the property first? Usually you don't talk out of that part of your body, General....as far as I can remember.
Why would you let the company know that you would fly a 737 sized airplane for that kind of money. It would take decades to get the pay rates where they should be for that size a/c. Where will you be in that period of time? And what good is the CR9 time in your logbook? It's pointless....that should only be a mainline airplane, otherwise there's no future for any of us on this side of the year 2030. What was the pay jump across the board when you got CR7's? Think you'll see the same % again? I wouldn't bet on it.......and that still is way less that what it's worth.

 

[twott driver]

dit sal ons geheim wees!

tot siens!

Ja nee maar goed dan! Moet net nie 'n drol in die drink-water gooi nie!

 

[EV120]

It's 1 am KATL time...General where are you????

As much as it would be nice to get more/larger aircraft at ASA...I don't want them here. I would like to have some sort of career progression.

General I hate to say it...our forefathers dropped the ball on us. A Delta flight flight SHOULD mean a Delta pilot regardless if it is ATL-CDG or ATL-VLD.

 

[737 Pylt]

There is no way that yours costs will EVER be as low as ours to operate these airplanes, we have a full training department and facilities dedicated to the CRJ family. Besides who is buying these airplanes, Skywest or Delta? I feel for you guys , I really do, but why should you have any say whatsoever as to what airplanes ASA, Skywest, Mesa, X-jet, or any other regional fly?

We shouldn't, but when its flown in DL colors, it is subject to the DL pilots' PWA!
737

 

[N2264J]

But what is truly bazaar is reading the mainline pikers who, to this day, continue to rationalize and justify this horribly failed policy and defend their MEC's actions as if they are on the right side of the issue.

We shouldn't, but when its flown in DL colors, it is subject to the DL pilots' PWA!

See what I mean? This "your-livelihood-is-subject-to-our-contract-which-we-alone-will-negotiate" attitude does not, in our view, meet the federal standard of equal and fair representation.

Making the union irrelevant by destroying the "collective" bargaining process dooms us all, every single pilot, to management's whipsaw.

 

[atlcrashpad]

We shouldn't, but when its flown in DL colors, it is subject to the DL pilots' PWA!
737

I believe that the Flying is OWNED by DAL (that is Delta Airlines, not to be confused with Delta pilots who think they own the airline). JG (CEO) can Farm the flying out if he and the Shareholders believe it will make them money. The DAL PWA can be voided at any minute and if you think it can't, well look what Leo Millions did with the Force Majore (sp). But you understand. It is total Economics here now. If DAL pilots can fly it cheaper, they will get it. If DCI can (most likely) fly cheaper then they will get it. It gets even more Cut Throat when DCI is pitted against one another.

 

[Sky rocket]

Hey 737 crybaby why dont you do us all a favor and leave. None of us need to here you cry and whine. What are you going to do? Start a new thread to get everyone against me??? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

 

[General Lee]

I believe that the Flying is OWNED by DAL (that is Delta Airlines, not to be confused with Delta pilots who think they own the airline). JG (CEO) can Farm the flying out if he and the Shareholders believe it will make them money. The DAL PWA can be voided at any minute and if you think it can't, well look what Leo Millions did with the Force Majore (sp). But you understand. It is total Economics here now. If DAL pilots can fly it cheaper, they will get it. If DCI can (most likely) fly cheaper then they will get it. It gets even more Cut Throat when DCI is pitted against one another.

Tell that to the bankruptcy judge chief. She is incharge now. The company cannot go against her wishes, and only labor can say no and actually strike. She even told our CFO that she wouldn't stop one. Let's hope it doesn't get to that point, though.

As far as who will fly what, the judge questioned the company about why the 79 seaters couldn't be flown by mainline pilots. Then she brought the same thing up the next day, that the 79 seaters to DCI would be used to "outsource" Delta pilots. If this comes down to the judge deciding who will get what, it will be interesting to see what she does. You think about it. The company and creditors are NOT incharge anymore, Prudence Beatty is. She wants us to negotiate first and foremost, but if that doesn't happen, then she will decide. She even threatened the Delta lawyer when he said they wouldn't be "agreeable" to an extension of talks. She said "then you won't like what I do next........" The next day he didn't even ask any questions, letting his cohort ask them.....

Dalpa just offered a new offer to the company----200 total 70 seat RJs. No talk about 79 or anything larger. We'll see........


Bye Bye--General Lee