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Very interesting indeed! Makes this recent letter to ALPA from the RJDC even more relevant.


RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com
Letter to ALPA's President
November 22, 2005

As part of its continuous review of industry events, the RJDC has learned of ALPA's most recent scope proposals at Delta. It is a sad commentary on the state of affairs within our own union when the ASA and Comair pilots must scour the public docket in order to ascertain the union's intentions rather than hearing it directly from the union's leadership.
ALPA's bargaining proposals at Delta clearly show the union's intent to continue its pattern of bad faith conduct and to perpetuate its on-going conflict of interest. ALPA's offer of economic incentives to entice management to withdraw some of its proposed scope changes, without the participation and consent of ASA and Comair pilots, is not only further proof that ALPA is working against our interests, but that the union has no intention of delivering on its obligation to enact reforms.

In response, we have written ALPA's President requesting that he intervene without delay in order to ensure the union's actions at Delta are conducted in accordance with the union's Constitution and Bylaws and its duties to the ASA and Comair pilots.
The full text of this letter and the supporting documentation can be downloaded from the RJDC's web site or from the following links:
Letter (Adobe Acrobat 145k)
Excerpts (Adobe Acrobat 450k)

 
JoeMerchant said:
Very interesting indeed! Makes this recent letter to ALPA from the RJDC even more relevant.


RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com
Letter to ALPA's President

November 22, 2005


As part of its continuous review of industry events, the RJDC has learned of ALPA's most recent scope proposals at Delta. It is a sad commentary on the state of affairs within our own union when the ASA and Comair pilots must scour the public docket in order to ascertain the union's intentions rather than hearing it directly from the union's leadership.
ALPA's bargaining proposals at Delta clearly show the union's intent to continue its pattern of bad faith conduct and to perpetuate its on-going conflict of interest. ALPA's offer of economic incentives to entice management to withdraw some of its proposed scope changes, without the participation and consent of ASA and Comair pilots, is not only further proof that ALPA is working against our interests, but that the union has no intention of delivering on its obligation to enact reforms.

In response, we have written ALPA's President requesting that he intervene without delay in order to ensure the union's actions at Delta are conducted in accordance with the union's Constitution and Bylaws and its duties to the ASA and Comair pilots.
The full text of this letter and the supporting documentation can be downloaded from the RJDC's web site or from the following links:
Letter (Adobe Acrobat 145k)
Excerpts (Adobe Acrobat 450k)


Joe:
The rjdc is gasping for air! They have to tell their members something...Remember, these idiots are paying the rjdc money with the promise of shiny newer bigger planes. It would almost be funny if it wasn't pathetic! I almost feel sorry for these losers!
737
 
rjcap said:
I don't think you want to drop this decision into the hands of the judge. She may throw an ultimatum at you;

70 seat scope limit or pay reductions.

Which one are you going to take ?????

Pay reductions. We all know that there could be a chance of bringing the rates up later. You need to get the planes first on the property, and then go for the pay.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
JoeMerchant said:
Very interesting indeed! Makes this recent letter to ALPA from the RJDC even more relevant.


RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com
Letter to ALPA's President

November 22, 2005


As part of its continuous review of industry events, the RJDC has learned of ALPA's most recent scope proposals at Delta. It is a sad commentary on the state of affairs within our own union when the ASA and Comair pilots must scour the public docket in order to ascertain the union's intentions rather than hearing it directly from the union's leadership.
ALPA's bargaining proposals at Delta clearly show the union's intent to continue its pattern of bad faith conduct and to perpetuate its on-going conflict of interest. ALPA's offer of economic incentives to entice management to withdraw some of its proposed scope changes, without the participation and consent of ASA and Comair pilots, is not only further proof that ALPA is working against our interests, but that the union has no intention of delivering on its obligation to enact reforms.

In response, we have written ALPA's President requesting that he intervene without delay in order to ensure the union's actions at Delta are conducted in accordance with the union's Constitution and Bylaws and its duties to the ASA and Comair pilots.
The full text of this letter and the supporting documentation can be downloaded from the RJDC's web site or from the following links:
Letter (Adobe Acrobat 145k)
Excerpts (Adobe Acrobat 450k)


That's funny. Our Dalpa negotiators are actually Delta pilots, and they are doing the negotiating with the company. Do our Delta pilot negotiators negotiate for ASA or Comair? I think the company is negotiating with us, and our pilots.

RJDC=LAZY BUMS (hey, Continental is hiring---apply NOW)

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
JoeMerchant said:
Very interesting indeed! Makes this recent letter to ALPA from the RJDC even more relevant.


RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com
Letter to ALPA's President
November 22, 2005

As part of its continuous review of industry events, the RJDC has learned of ALPA's most recent scope proposals at Delta. It is a sad commentary on the state of affairs within our own union when the ASA and Comair pilots must scour the public docket in order to ascertain the union's intentions rather than hearing it directly from the union's leadership.
ALPA's bargaining proposals at Delta clearly show the union's intent to continue its pattern of bad faith conduct and to perpetuate its on-going conflict of interest. ALPA's offer of economic incentives to entice management to withdraw some of its proposed scope changes, without the participation and consent of ASA and Comair pilots, is not only further proof that ALPA is working against our interests, but that the union has no intention of delivering on its obligation to enact reforms.

In response, we have written ALPA's President requesting that he intervene without delay in order to ensure the union's actions at Delta are conducted in accordance with the union's Constitution and Bylaws and its duties to the ASA and Comair pilots.
The full text of this letter and the supporting documentation can be downloaded from the RJDC's web site or from the following links:
Letter (Adobe Acrobat 145k)
Excerpts (Adobe Acrobat 450k)


Cha-Ching!!!


Hey, what was that sound? Oh nevermind, it's just the sound of the RJDC's lawyers getting rich off of a bunch of idiots that keep sending them checks even though 9 out of 10 claims have already been thrown out of court.
 
Hey, why does the DL BK judge keep harping on Delta about the 79 seaters? Here is the quote:

Judge referred to company's 79 seat a/c proposal as "outsourcing DL pilots' jobs".



The RJDC must not like that.......


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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General Lee said:
Pay reductions. We all know that there could be a chance of bringing the rates up later. You need to get the planes first on the property, and then go for the pay.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Sounds like the same thing regional pilot groups were beat up for by Major's pilots and accused of shiny jet syndrome. Hope you have better luck at getting the rates up for all our good. Thumbs up for fighting the good fight for whats left of our industry.
 
So there are going to be Delta mainline pilots making $19 an hour... $37 an hour. I'm impressed if you all fall that far to get the jets on the property. More power to ya... Might even be time to get that resume for Delta ready again.
 
General Lee said:
That's funny. Our Dalpa negotiators are actually Delta pilots, and they are doing the negotiating with the company. Do our Delta pilot negotiators negotiate for ASA or Comair? I think the company is negotiating with us, and our pilots.

RJDC=LAZY BUMS (hey, Continental is hiring---apply NOW)

Bye Bye--General Lee

General Lee,

If you study ALPA history, you will see that ALPA is on the hook for any mistakes made by local MECs. Look at the Duke/Spellacy lawsuit. That was a mistake made by an MEC, but ALPA had to pay. ALPA national as the SOLE bargaining agent has the power to step in as they did in the CCAir case, and is liable for any decisions made by the DAL MEC.

Joe = not lazy and don't want to work for Continental.
 
PCL_128 said:
Cha-Ching!!!

Hey, what was that sound? Oh nevermind, it's just the sound of the RJDC's lawyers getting rich off of a bunch of idiots that keep sending them checks even though 9 out of 10 claims have already been thrown out of court.

PCL 128,
The case is getting stronger by the day with transcripts like this. ALPA, my bargaining agent, is trying to stop these CL705s from coming to my company. It is a clear conflict of interest.

Joe
 

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