ASA Dullas day three: It has started

[COOPERVANE]

ASA Dulles day three: It has started

Sorry.... title should read DULLES!!


So, I see that several crews are being TDY'd to IAD.

What's wrong crew scheduling? mis-manage your IAD reserves already?

Only 10 flights operated today. I guess the 30 crew wasn't enough

Robbing Peter to pay Paul on day 3. Fantastic

Sloppy.....very sloppy

 

[777forever]

The ROA nap was cancelled last nite for crew rest issues. Guess that may be a result of everyone being on 9am short call a having to cover naps. Just guesses though the people in ATL got the big picture in front of them

 

[i fly boxes]

how is ord doing, any better?

 

[JoeMerchant]

I suspect most of the IAD pilots commute. Many out of ATL. With all the disruptions in ATL, IAD, and DFW, it wouldn't surprise me if most commuters didn't make it.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Well, that's what happens when you don't pay your newbies more than minimum wage and displace them with a few months notice to one of the most expensive areas in the country.

Didn't I just watch a Frontline show on this? Deja Vu?

 

[79%N1]

So whats wrong with this? Sounds to me like good business. ASA wants to succeed in Dulles to grow their business. We are fat in Atlanta with dozens of guys sitting around doing nothing. Look at the reserve lists. Hardly anybody over 25 hours or so. Why not send a couple up to keep things running smoothly? You bash ASA for this?

 

[OCP]

Not like this is anything new anyway. I was TDYd to ATL from DFW for a week to fly Brasillas that ASA didn't fly in ATL anymore... Unless they needed to.

 

[Data]

Well, that's what happens when you don't pay your newbies more than minimum wage and displace them with a few months notice to one of the most expensive areas in the country.

Didn't I just watch a Frontline show on this? Deja Vu?

What are you talking about? This doesn't even make sense.

 

[buscap]

What are you talking about? This doesn't even make sense.

And none of our 'newbies' are on first or second year pay. They are on industry leading FO pay, which still sucks, but that was one lame post.

Forced commuting does suck butt though.

 

[sayrejm]

Yes... furlough everyone making less than 35K so we can claim a higher average FO pay... *crickets* *crickets*...

 

[SpyFlysDOTs]

This week, saw a management type from ASA at F1 Gate ORD making sure the crews knew the scoop.
Nice touch.

 

[COOPERVANE]

So whats wrong with this? Sounds to me like good business. ASA wants to succeed in Dulles to grow their business. We are fat in Atlanta with dozens of guys sitting around doing nothing. Look at the reserve lists. Hardly anybody over 25 hours or so. Why not send a couple up to keep things running smoothly? You bash ASA for this?

Ill tell you why. Our scheduling dept is SO mismanaged they need 100 reserve captains to cover 300 lines. We exhaust reserves on a daily basis. I rarely sit around "doing nothing"

I am an ATL based pilot. I stayed in ATL for a reason. I could have held a pretty good line in IAD had I bid it, but I didn't!! Now I am a reserve pilot flying a crappy reserve schedule in IAD ANYWAY. You wonder why I'm pissed?

The IAD crews went to a nice training day to familiarize themselves to the United ops in IAD and ORD.

NOW due to scheduling's lack of planning and incompetence, I must TDY to IAD and operate in a system with no "familiarization class" It IS very different, and is very sloppy planning.

Wait till you take YOUR TDY turn with 6 legs between CVG and ORD. We'll see how happy you are to "help out"

 

[ace6453]

The IAD crews went to a nice training day to familiarize themselves to the United ops in IAD and ORD.

Actually....no. Read the slides on ourasa, that is all that was discussed on the training day. In fact, they read the slides to us.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Actually....no. Read the slides on ourasa, that is all that was discussed on the training day. In fact, they read the slides to us.

Wow. I stand corrected. Thats some quality training right there!!

 

[CFI2766]

Or, differently, why not take the initiative to do whatever you can legally and contractually to get the job done? It doesn't take a leap of faith to see that a lot of ASA's future prospects will be either helped or harmed by the results of the IAD/ORD operations. Yes, reserve sucks no matter where you are, TDY or not. The definition of TDY includes the word 'temporary', though. Just get it done.


For me, it is helpful to know that contract negotiations are right around the corner.


Personally, I think statements like these are a much better place to start negotiations on our next contract:

"It is great to see people are going above and beyond to make ASA an even better place and so willing to pitch in. Thank you."

and:

"Throughout the past two years, ASA people have accomplished incredible performance feats, positioning our airline as a safe, reliable and attractive carrier to mainline partners."

What do you think?

 

[777forever]

Wow. I stand corrected. Thats some quality training right there!!

It takes 10 mins to get familarized with the UAL ops. The familarization class was a waste of time for most people.

 

[aeropharoh]

we have 25% res coverage in IAD and still cant get it right, only around 50 flights a day. We are not doing that great of a job b/c they schedule ATL crews to operate out of ORD and due to w/x they cant get there. Already there is junior manning going on to cover trips that were scheduled to operate with atl crews. operated new service to pns 2 hours late, 28 min turns scheduled in ord. they really dont give us the tools to work with, in asa fashion we are set up to fail.

 

[i fly boxes]

Every regional that starts with a new carrier struggles at first while they get used to things, remember there is no proactive thinking at airlines, only reactive. Im sure you guys will get it right after about a month.

 

[Max Q]

Tell your FO her sim partner says hello and sucks to be her.

 

[TapitLight]

Welcome to the life of a UAX regional! Get ready to pour your resources into this system that is skewed just enough to consistently fail...unless of course you are flying in the sun and rainbows of the west coast! Enjoy, it is not the ticket to anything better!