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av8tor4239 said:
Heard there is crew food at asa now.. can anyone veryify?
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They are mini meals. They are to get you through a tight turn so on the next you can get some lunch or whatever. I like them. They are useful and come in handy when you need them.

Trojan
 
Take your pick to you want the cat food (tuna) or the doggy treats (beef jerky). But you can't beat the gouda flavored processed cheese. Yum
 
At least you guys get something, at Skyway in the Beech the company wouldn't even allow us to grab a company provided (only for the Dork jet) water bottle on 8 leg days, in the summer. We would have loved to have some crappy crew meals thrown at us, hell even some midwest cookies would have been nice.
 
Dont worry...they will be gone soon! Almost every single time I pick up a plane from another crew going to the hotel....at least one of the flight attendants takes a crew meal with them to the hotel. Or even better....we have a 2 hour break in ATL....I leave to go grab some Moe's and come back to find the FA in the back eating a crew meal. I say something to them everytime and just get a dirty look. I have submitted RIF's everytime I see this happen (without specific names mentioned of coarse, not trying to throw anyone under the bus). I realize the FA's aren't paid for crap....but we have to stop them from thinking these crew meals are theirs to take to the hotel, have on 2 hour breaks, and to take home with them or we are going to lose the crew meals. I think the crew meals are an outstanding idea and I have utilized them many times on short turns. I do not want to see these go away.

Is anyone else noticing the FA's taking the crew meals?
 
Kerveball said:
Dont worry...they will be gone soon! Almost every single time I pick up a plane from another crew going to the hotel....at least one of the flight attendants takes a crew meal with them to the hotel. Or even better....we have a 2 hour break in ATL....I leave to go grab some Moe's and come back to find the FA in the back eating a crew meal. I say something to them everytime and just get a dirty look. I have submitted RIF's everytime I see this happen (without specific names mentioned of coarse, not trying to throw anyone under the bus). I realize the FA's aren't paid for crap....but we have to stop them from thinking these crew meals are theirs to take to the hotel, have on 2 hour breaks, and to take home with them or we are going to lose the crew meals. I think the crew meals are an outstanding idea and I have utilized them many times on short turns. I do not want to see these go away.

Is anyone else noticing the FA's taking the crew meals?
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WOW!!!You must be a joy to fly with. Chill out. They don't have any money. If you want to fix the problem, pay for their dinner. Until then, please get a life.
You won't loose your crew meals. Don't worry.
 
If there is one thing that place can do it is let you have a GD snack pack whaen you want it. I hope the F/A's are writting your arse up when you take a water to the overnight ar anything else.
 
Man pilots are hard to please. We didn't have anything before and now that we got something for nothing, all you can do is complain about the quality! Its like being given a free car and complaining about the color.
 
outtahere said:
Man pilots are hard to please. We didn't have anything before and now that we got something for nothing, all you can do is complain about the quality! Its like being given a free car and complaining about the color.
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Out of 15 posts so far, there has only been one that can be considered even remotely negative towards the crew meals.

Everything else you said, I agree with.

-Brett
 
Kerveball said:
Dont worry...they will be gone soon! Almost every single time I pick up a plane from another crew going to the hotel....at least one of the flight attendants takes a crew meal with them to the hotel. Or even better....we have a 2 hour break in ATL....I leave to go grab some Moe's and come back to find the FA in the back eating a crew meal. I say something to them everytime and just get a dirty look. I have submitted RIF's everytime I see this happen (without specific names mentioned of coarse, not trying to throw anyone under the bus). I realize the FA's aren't paid for crap....but we have to stop them from thinking these crew meals are theirs to take to the hotel, have on 2 hour breaks, and to take home with them or we are going to lose the crew meals. I think the crew meals are an outstanding idea and I have utilized them many times on short turns. I do not want to see these go away.

Is anyone else noticing the FA's taking the crew meals?
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Wow, am I glad I'm not flying with this guy! I bet you buy your own water, ice, soda, peanuts, and hand wipes too.

If the company is paying retail for the Oakfield products each mini meal costs $2.85 for the blue ones, and $2.36 for the red ones. I'd be willing to bet we get a wholesale discount off these prices. As long as the company pays these girls welfare wages, I'm not getting too worked up about it, especially at these prices.
 
the thing that needs to be RIFed more often if you're worried about losing the crew snacks is the fact is they are being taken off the airplane by station personnel at the outstations. Had this happen twice. And saw a gate agent in ATL also eating one......
 
bluefly72 said:
I wish we had gorditas....
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Until a few months ago, ASA did have Gorditas. I was often tempted to tell the brain trust at the G.O. to eat me, but never got around to it. I came close once with Drew B. but decided that it was too small of a world with too long left to work.

Glad to hear that Uncle Rico has made some positive changes. I always said that ASA had a lot of potential - I just hope that they didn't wait to long to figure that out.
 
Kerveball said:
Dont worry...they will be gone soon! Almost every single time I pick up a plane from another crew going to the hotel....at least one of the flight attendants takes a crew meal with them to the hotel. Or even better....we have a 2 hour break in ATL....I leave to go grab some Moe's and come back to find the FA in the back eating a crew meal. I say something to them everytime and just get a dirty look. I have submitted RIF's everytime I see this happen (without specific names mentioned of coarse, not trying to throw anyone under the bus). I realize the FA's aren't paid for crap....but we have to stop them from thinking these crew meals are theirs to take to the hotel, have on 2 hour breaks, and to take home with them or we are going to lose the crew meals. I think the crew meals are an outstanding idea and I have utilized them many times on short turns. I do not want to see these go away.

Is anyone else noticing the FA's taking the crew meals?
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Yup, just about every day of every new trip. I'm flying with different ones all the time, and it's always the same. I get offered them on the first leg of a trip, regardless of the length of trip (day line or 4 day) and regardless of break time in between legs. I've said something until my face turns blue, basically because these are for "emergency purposes" to make a turn and keep things on schedule, not for personal consumption at will. The other day I had an FA take 2 of them with her to the hotel for the overnight. I didn't see it until we were at the hotel and she thought nothing of it.

It's amazing how easy it is to tell between the adults & kids on this site and the difference in generation gap & upbringing, just by the comments. The "it's mine and I deserve it" attitude is troubling and old. If you're not using it for what it was intended for, then it's not yours. Outright abuse of anything should be grounds for immediate dismissal.

Water on the overnight, soda on the overnight, wipes, etc. are all expected to be taken by the company and have never been questioned unless it's an excessive amount. They are provided to the customers (notice I didn't say passengers, because customers pay my paycheck) in an unlimited quantity and are expected to be consumed. The company has never put a limit on items for customer consumption nor crew consumption. However, these Mini Meals have a specific purpose, and that is to save a D-0 departure in lieu of taking a break. They are not intended to replace nourishment, which is what FAs are using them for.

Their pay is not my issue until it gets to be crunch time like it was for us last year. When an FA tells me that they need help in negotiations, I'm there because maintenance issues happen, especially at outstations. They tolerated us, and I'll pay it back in a heartbeat.

"It's mine, I saw it first" is part of the "Toddler's Creed" and anyone with kids knows what I'm talking about. The real shame is when a crew actually needs the Mini Meal to try to save a D-0 departure and there isn't one available because too many people abused the system. If it keeps up, the company will probably axe the program due to the cost.

What would you tell your kid or spouse if they were downing a 12 pack of Coke a day at $4 a case and your income was tight? Things that make you go Hmmmmm.......
 
give a pilot 2 burlap sacs with dollar sign on it and im sure they will complain about how heavy they are:rolleyes:
 
While I think that most FA's are just taking the meals like a company sponsored overnight meal and as an entitlement etc, I would also point out that they are still dealing with contract negotiations. Would we as a pilot group have been so considerate of the company and the meals' intended purpose if we had them pre-contract?
 
True. Good point.

However, what happens when a crew really needs that Mini Meal to make a departure and it's not there?

I agree with you, believe me, and thought of that while writing my life story 4 posts ago. At least we were considerate of the FAs and mechanics during our "issues".
 
true. I would say carry one with you for when you do need it for its intended purpose. The FA's won't stop taking them. It's like carrying the $75, err, $10 ACARS paper in your flight case.
 
GearUpLightsIn said:
While I think that most FA's are just taking the meals like a company sponsored overnight meal and as an entitlement etc, I would also point out that they are still dealing with contract negotiations. Would we as a pilot group have been so considerate of the company and the meals' intended purpose if we had them pre-contract?
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You are validating "self-entitlement" excuses. Please, quit coming up with the excuse for the week!

There is an intended purpose for these meals. Another crew that follows them, that meets the intended purpose, will not have the opportunity to dine sufficiently! I have seen them removed by crewmembers that were about to have 2 hour breaks, and they were so inconsiderate, they did not even reorder the meals--probably so as not to incriminate themselves.

The heck with the rif, the next time I see a crew member carry one off, I will axed them wutz up and make a citizen's arrest, just like Barney Fife!
 
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Speedtape said:
You are validating "self-entitlement" excuses. Please, quit coming up with the excuse for the week!
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Barney was a cop, his would have been a regular arrest. Did you even read the first line of my previous post? I think it is BS, but I would point out that the many of the pilot group would have made excuses for entitlement pre-contract if we had the meals then.
 
It's amazing to me how much money I see people waste while flying.

Extending flaps when there really is no need 15 to 20 miles from the runway. One guy wanted to put flaps out because he was uncomfortable with the "high" deck angle. (4 degrees) The 200 will not fall out of the sky if your above maneuvering speed.

starting both engines at the gate because there "doesn't look like a line" at 8R, but then by the time we get there, were 10 for departure.

When departing an outstation and getting vectored the wrong way, and speeding up to 250 kts. I know its the profile...but were going the wrong way! I maintain 200 or less until the aircraft is turned toward our route (increase climb performance and better turn radius)

Taxiing into the gate on 2 engines, or shutting one off just as we approach the roadway.

Always running the APU no matter what the pax load or temperature is. If they don't brief it I always shut it down. You should see some of the looks I get.

Also, if its cold out...don't start the APU immediatly after landing, wait to you approach the gate, and then spin it. Every minute helps.

And it is permissible to taxi on 1 engine with the APU off...Most captains I fly with are uncomfortable with that configuration.

Descending early into thicker air and lower TAS.

Folks, in the days of 120 barrel oil, I'm much more concerned about reducing fuel usage, than chasing a flight attendant around for a $2.85 meal.

Anybody else got some fuel savings tips?
 
B.T.Justice said:
It's amazing to me how much money I see people waste while flying.

Extending flaps when there really is no need 15 to 20 miles from the runway. One guy wanted to put flaps out because he was uncomfortable with the "high" deck angle. (4 degrees) The 200 will not fall out of the sky if your above maneuvering speed.

starting both engines at the gate because there "doesn't look like a line" at 8R, but then by the time we get there, were 10 for departure.

When departing an outstation and getting vectored the wrong way, and speeding up to 250 kts. I know its the profile...but were going the wrong way! I maintain 200 or less until the aircraft is turned toward our route (increase climb performance and better turn radius)

Taxiing into the gate on 2 engines, or shutting one off just as we approach the roadway.

Always running the APU no matter what the pax load or temperature is. If they don't brief it I always shut it down. You should see some of the looks I get.

Also, if its cold out...don't start the APU immediatly after landing, wait to you approach the gate, and then spin it. Every minute helps.

And it is permissible to taxi on 1 engine with the APU off...Most captains I fly with are uncomfortable with that configuration.

Descending early into thicker air and lower TAS.

Folks, in the days of 120 barrel oil, I'm much more concerned about reducing fuel usage, than chasing a flight attendant around for a $2.85 meal.

Anybody else got some fuel savings tips?
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Yeah! Don't cut off the APU unless the Captain concurs. You would only do it once on my flight!
 

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