ASA Crew food

[JettBoii]

I love Selma Hayek.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Give it time. As soon as the company realizes that Flight Attendants are taking these on their overnights, or gate agents are taking them off of planes, the program will go away.

The real shame will be when we have to buy our own food in the terminal, and we realize the Moo Moo Mr. Cow deal is gone.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Give it time. As soon as the company realizes that Flight Attendants are taking these on their overnights, or gate agents are taking them off of planes, the program will go away.

Sounds like the AirTran 1.5L water fiasco of 2005.

 

[172driver]

I think you guys need to step back and realize that those "meals" are not a gift and they are not being provided out of goodwill by the company.

Crewmembers need nutrition to operate airplanes, period. Giving you food keeps the airplanes moving. They wouldn't dispatch you with no fuel for the jet right? Same goes for the crew. Giving you meals allows them to build a more productive schedule and not have it fall apart due to the pilots running out of gas.

Even if some of the snack packs go to the hotel or to the rampies, it's not really that big a deal compared to the cost of misconnects, bumping, and rebooking hundreds of pax a day.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

AhhhAAhhh,
Who cares? My dog loves the jerkey treat red boxes and the yellow a$$flavored tuna kits too! If they wanna run the schedules so tight they gotta feed us expired UAL meals who cares who/what eats them. As for single engine taxi, no apu, that will last only until a hydraulic failure takes the brakes and steering away and a plane enters the terminal uninvited! Keep decreasing the safety margins, why carry so much fuel? How 'bout burn + 100lbs, no sense tankering too much "dead" weight around, how 'bout getting rid of those genius F/Os who want to taxi single engine, no APU. Or even better offer F/As free flight training in exchange for cabin service, they stay in the cockpit till 10000ft, then serve cokes till 10000ft, back to the cockpit. Or even better F/Os will now do cabin service above 10000ft.
Genius
PBR

 

[RedRum]

They is maid by Skippy.... he went to duh Bahamas and dun bankrupt his new job, so he now makin' sammitches for ASA..... itz Karma Bouyyyyyyyy......

Got a good laugh out of that one Crash... good job.

Wish we had the snack packs at NWA, but then again I kind of cringe when I think of the folks making our lunches.

 

[Diesel]

Remember why the company is getting you snack packs.... because they want/need you to keep the engines turning and keep a schedule that wasn't realistic to begin with and magically make it realistic.

They aren't a privilege, the company has to give them to you. it's a way to keep you in the cockpit and not being unsafe with low food intake causing an unsafe cockpit and decision making process.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

AhhhAAhhh,
As for single engine taxi, no apu, that will last only until a hydraulic failure takes the brakes and steering away and a plane enters the terminal uninvited!

Um, you do know something about CRJ systems right? You do single engine taxi on #2 right?

 

[FORESTGUMP]

AhhhAAhhh,
Who cares? My dog loves the jerkey treat red boxes and the yellow a$$flavored tuna kits too! If they wanna run the schedules so tight they gotta feed us expired UAL meals who cares who/what eats them. As for single engine taxi, no apu, that will last only until a hydraulic failure takes the brakes and steering away and a plane enters the terminal uninvited! Keep decreasing the safety margins, why carry so much fuel? How 'bout burn + 100lbs, no sense tankering too much "dead" weight around, how 'bout getting rid of those genius F/Os who want to taxi single engine, no APU. Or even better offer F/As free flight training in exchange for cabin service, they stay in the cockpit till 10000ft, then serve cokes till 10000ft, back to the cockpit. Or even better F/Os will now do cabin service above 10000ft.
Genius
PBR

Idiot. Damn!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Um, you do know something about CRJ systems right? You do single engine taxi on #2 right?

Yeah,
And when #2 quits, that leaves how many powering the pumps? ADG will power what at 10 kts?
Thought so!
I say positive rate, gear up, you say gear up, nothing more, nothing less.
PBR
Now shut up and do as you are told!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Um, you do know something about CRJ systems right? You do single engine taxi on #2 right?

Sure,
#2 is on the right
Genius
PBR

 

[McNugent]

Who's taxiing around single engine with the APU off??? That's not even what they are wanting us to do with the Project APU. Or is it? I've been gone too long, I forget...

 

[V-1]

The systems training must be pretty bad over there, PBR.

Single engine taxi (number 2), no APU

#2 engine fails...one of three things occurs:

1. airplane rolls to a stop undamaged

2. pilot uses hydraulic pressure stored in the brake accumulators to safely stop the airplane

3. pilot declares an emergency as the airplane rolls into the terminal because he/she didn't know the brakes would still work well normally for several applications after the engine failure

Next time you pull into the gate and shut your engines/apu down and hydraulic pumps off, check the pressure readings on the brake system. They don't immediately go to zero.

 

[say again]

Wow!!!

 

[Tarzan]

T

2. pilot uses hydraulic pressure stored in the brake accumulators to safely stop the airplane

We have a winner!

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Yeah,
And when #2 quits, that leaves how many powering the pumps? ADG will power what at 10 kts?
Thought so!
I say positive rate, gear up, you say gear up, nothing more, nothing less.
PBR
Now shut up and do as you are told!

Good luck with that ADG with weight on wheels...

Nothing in project APU says anything about taxiing with #2 and no APU, but don't we do that anyway when the APU is deferred? Taxi on #2, then cross-bleed later? Maybe I'm confused on that...

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Yeah,
And when #2 quits, that leaves how many powering the pumps? ADG will power what at 10 kts?
Thought so!
I say positive rate, gear up, you say gear up, nothing more, nothing less.
PBR
Now shut up and do as you are told!

Use the brake accumulators and start up the APU to power 3A while #2 is winding down. Probably won't even need the accumulators if you're quick enough.

Oh nevermind, we are talking about YOU here... definitely not quick enough

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Nothing in project APU says anything about taxiing with #2 and no APU, but don't we do that anyway when the APU is deferred? Taxi on #2, then cross-bleed later? Maybe I'm confused on that...

I think it did mention it, I forgot where though. I figure you'd only save fuel by doing that if the wait for takeoff was 15+ minutes though. Nothing wrong with it if it's cool enough out. Many other RJ operators do it.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

The systems training must be pretty bad over there, PBR.

Single engine taxi (number 2), no APU

#2 engine fails...one of three things occurs:

1. airplane rolls to a stop undamaged

2. pilot uses hydraulic pressure stored in the brake accumulators to safely stop the airplane

3. pilot declares an emergency as the airplane rolls into the terminal because he/she didn't know the brakes would still work well normally for several applications after the engine failure

Next time you pull into the gate and shut your engines/apu down and hydraulic pumps off, check the pressure readings on the brake system. They don't immediately go to zero.

#1-sure, if there is nothing in the way, like another airplane,ramper,tug, ect. How many times can you use the nosewheel steering before 0psi?See #2 below.

2#- assuming the accumulators are properly pressurized with N2, we used to preflight them at SKYW, alas no more. I found more than a few with 0 N2 PSI.

#3- nothing you would know about, F/Os don't taxi, in fact I regularly have F/Os slide their seat back and try to start filling out the can prior to approaching the parking position. And if you don't think they go to 0 quickly watch #1 system after shutdown and then watch the calibrated leakdown on #2 after that. Nothing wrong with systems training, sometimes I just forget, but I have been flying commercially for 25 years and haven't even scratched a plane yet(knock on wood). You?
PBR
P.S. posting with 'ole number 7 and coke in hand leaves a bit to be desired.

 

[V-1]

I'm not sure why you would have First Officers slide their seat back and fill out paperwork when approaching your parking spot...seems a little unsafe.

You're correct. I can't yet claim to be among the tens of thousands of pilots who have at some point in their career achieved 25 years of service in this godforsaken industry without scratching an airplane. At present time, I can only claim to be among the tens of thousands of pilots who have achieved ten years of service in this godforsaken industry without scratching an airplane...and two of those years were spent flying in an environment far more demanding than the scheduled part 121 world.

To be quite honest, I don't expect I'll see 25 years in this industry...unless there are significant changes for the better, which seem unlikely. The company I work for already can't afford to pay me what I earn in other non aviation related endeavors.

I agree that posting while drinking leaves something to be desired. That's why I'm taking it easy on you until you regain full use of your mental faculties.

I don't remember writing that I was a First Officer, but if it helps you believe your penis is bigger than mine, I'll play along.

You may have the final word. I've more important things to do.