ASA Contract Negotiations Stalled

["GO AROUND"]

Even the QOL issues that we want improved will cost money, however little it is. The company is just so friggin short sighted they can't see that the improvement in efficiency will more than pay for it. With the improvements to scheduling alone they could cut the sched./planning dept's staff in half. A computer could do most their jobs with 10 times the efficiency and you only need a person there to handle IROPs.

 

[regionaltard]

I agree with "GO AROUND" go by the SP's. Dont call for fuel let the DC come to you dont go to them. And after you have taken off and are far away from ATL or SLC call Delta Radio and ask your dispatcher what times they put in and under what code and make them change it to the correct time you have on you. If we do this pretty soon everyone will be running 20+ minutes late.

If you could document the fact that times were being systematically altered I'm certain that someone at the DOT would be interested in finding this out.

 

[SSDD]

I certainly don't have ALL the answers, but I do know some things. Those strong arm, break a kneecap, sabotage your own operations tatics of the past won't work anymore. In todays environment, specially at the regionals, if the company's costs increase beyond a certain range, you'll lose your flying and will be raplaced!

I'm not sure what the answer is. I wouldn't want to work for somebody for rock bottom wages. But we have to be realistic. When pensions, work rules, wages, equipment size, QOL issues are coming down at the majors, you can't expect to get them at a regional...that's just reality.

Sorry, no crystal ball here.

 

[hmmurdock]

Look. I think everyone at ASA know we are'nt going to break the bank on pay rates. Infact, many expect there will be no increase in rates. The sad thing is, most of us only want the increases to QOL issues that are INDUSTRY STANDARD!! We are all smart enough to know that our rates are pretty standard to the rest of the industry on the 700, and a bit lower on the 200. I can really see a scenario where SKYW management pushes for on rate for both airplanes. This would probably bring the 200 pay up a bit, and the 700 pay down a bit. But we really want the crappy QOL issues cleaned up in our contract, stuff that does not COST that much! Were not all thinking about raising the bar at a time where our ML partner is bankrupt, Comair is furloughing and taking concessions, and our 700 rates are already higher than most of the industry, including the ones of the company that just purchased us.

What we should really be wondering is.....what are the details of the secret meeting between ASA and all the unions, where secret confidentiality agreements were signed, followed by our negotiations breaking down. That probably holds the key to the future of ASA more than anything!

Greetings...

I dont think our 70 seat rates are industry standard..Look at Horizons new 70 seat rates on APC's site. They now top out at 121.00, 18 year pay for crying out loud. This must be a recent update to pay, because it used to be 115.00 not too long ago. Their first year pay is now 29.00. Not too bad if you ask me.

Take care

 

[EMB170Pilot]

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Asa Has Space People

 

[atrdriver]

If you could document the fact that times were being systematically altered I'm certain that someone at the DOT would be interested in finding this out.

I has been shown many times that the times are being changed. No one cares except the pilots, because that's what our pay is based on.