ASA / Comair growth

[bailout]

>>Who/what is "Chit" any way? Last I checked, a chit was a piece of paper.<<

Actually its found ON the piece of paper, ..after I wipe.

 

[General Lee]

Ace,

Yeah, I think Bushy is a 767 Capt in ATL now. He was a great VP of flt ops----he cared about the pilots very much.

I don't know about Chataqua and all of their ERJ's, but I bet they will get the lion's share of the new growth.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Skull-One]

>>Who/what is "Chit" any way? Last I checked, a chit was a piece of paper.<<

Actually its found ON the piece of paper, ..after I wipe.

That was so funny I forgot to laugh...

Now that I have remembered...I'll give it a try....

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[afroman]

ACE 757:

Yeah, Dave's back on the line. Just had lunch w/ him the other day. Too bad he was forced out of his old posn and repalced by that shjthead Joe you-know-who, what a mgmt-groomed little shjt he is. I've known Dave for about 15 years -- a fine man. Things would be much different around red square if he were still around.

As for 'chit', 'chit' is the same as 'shjt'tauqua -- you job stealing little punk.

 

[embraerdriver]

You job stealing little punk?

And this from a Delta puke? Why don't you check with your mgmt and blame them.
We are all just pilots and if the situation were reversed-Would it be ok then? If you got all the growth? Thought so a$$hole!

Let me tell you something- All you jealous biatches can go f#%k yourselves. Mainline military douchebags especially. This is the new world of the aviation industry. Maybe if you didn't make $200/hour doing the same thing we do this wouldn't be happening. But you can't change that now. So let's see let's blame CHQ for the whole mess, Chq who when I got hired had 26 Saab340's, 11 J31's and 3 count em 3ERJ's- that's it! We coded for USA, and TWA. Nobody cared about us then or better yet wanted to work here or anything. I for one could care less about what a/c I fly! RJ'S ARE faster than half the mainline crap that is 20 yrs old anyway!!

Well I commend the mgmt team at CHQ for the unprecedented growth while we saw 9/11 take place. We went from props to 75-80 rj's in 3 yrs. Who else did that?? AAH I... am beginning to understand the jealously and envy. Wholly owned concessions and mainline concessions lead to contract carriers being bashed. Get over yourselves, get a reality check, and BLAME YOUR MGMT TEAM!- you job losing little biatches!

 

[wil]

This is exactly what management wants- the pilot groups going at each other's throats. I'm not happy that Chitauqua has gotten routes that have been in the ASA system for 15+ years but I can't blame the crews for this fact!! I don't expect for you to join hands and sing "Coumbyha" but lets be civil and professional. Everbody fly safe and have a great week- Wil

 

[Skull-One]

As for 'chit', 'chit' is the same as 'shjt'tauqua -- you job stealing little punk.

Oh look at the witty response from the big bad super pilot. Gee, that one can't be more than 30 years old.


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[Anaconda]

kinda off topic but since CHQ drivers are so sensitive about their name i was just wondering, have you guys ever pushed to have your call sign changed? it certainly is a mouthful on the radio where brevity is desired, it is constantly butchered up in it's pronunciation, and it seems that the name is usually dropped most of the time and crews respond with just their flight number (not always a good idea)...just curious...

 

[~~~^~~~]

since CHQ drivers are so sensitive about their name i was just wondering, have you guys ever pushed to have your call sign changed?

Why yes, the name is being changed to Republic.


Could not resist after all the nasty things written about Delta employees by a few of our subcontractors on this board.

 

[NuGuy]

Hi all,

As much as I disagree with Fins on a lot of other things, I think he is on the right track here...

You are going to see at DAL a mimic of that happened at USAir in the early 1990's.

Now that DAL has outsourced flying, some MBA managament type will figure out that, from a passenger perspective, there is NO difference between one DCI carrier and another, other than the COST.

So, with money tight, more and more flying will be outsourced from "expensive" carriers to less "expensive" carriers (plus they don't require ANY capital financing). Passengers really don't care how bad the service is because its a "little" airplane, or so they think.

But you say "DAL would never do that, we make too much $$$". Ah, but at that point, you are a cash cow, only to be milked.

Take a look at USAir...in the early 90s you had ALG, HEN (Henson, aka Piedmont) and JST (Jetstream, aka PSA). Wholly owned, makes money, great service numbers, best contracts in the industry. Mesa rolled in, just a little bit at first with the 1900s (and horrible, horrible service) and when the money got a bit tight, eventually management said "why pay more"? Bingo, our friends at the US wholly owned are in their current predicament.

In 1992, Henson was THE place to work. Comair was PFT, and their biggest piece of equipment was the SAAB 340. ACA was all about the J-31 and reeling from their separation from WestAir and burdened with a mix of aircraft from the Air Willy prop buyout. CHQ was a mom and pop operation flying Metroliners out of Jamestown, NY, and you had to pay $8,500 to FSI to work there. My point is, things change...

Don't think for second that a quality operation means anything. Don't think that you can't be bled for cash while being slowly starved to death.

My advice to ASA and Comair...do the single carrier petition, and get some SCOPE, quick.

Best,
Nu

 

[Ace757]

I believe that CHQ uses ASA/COMAIR ground crews and support. If they had to have there own, they would have much higher costs. I know everyone argues that the EMB is cheaper, but in the long run there is not that much difference.

 

[General Lee]

Hey, I don't exactly share the same view as AFROMAN, and I think it was alittle harsh. What were the Chataqua pilots supposed to do when their management got the Delta contract? Refuse to fly it? They are working on a better contract and Delta is looking for cheaper feed. Lay off them----if they accept another MESA contract, then you can bash them. Hopefully they will stand up for themselves, which I think they are trying to do right now.

Bye Bye--General Lee

PS---Not a Delta military puke

 

[Skull-One]

I believe that CHQ uses ASA/COMAIR ground crews and support. If they had to have there own, they would have much higher costs. I know everyone argues that the EMB is cheaper, but in the long run there is not that much difference.

Yeah, and we'd still make money. Don't believe me? Look at STL. 93-96% on time for last month, too.

Not much long term difference? HA! Boy are you lacking knowledge about economies of scale. A five percent savings in operating costs on a multimillion dollar annual operation is *HUGE*.

As for sensitivity to our name... We *LIKE* our name. It is unique and has a good history behind it. It's also no more of a mouthfull than "Allegheny," "United," or "Waterski." I'm flat out sick of all the morons who think that calling us "Chit-Wah" is witty or original. It's stale. Come up with something else.

I'm sure ASA would loved to be called ASS....... Delta... Let's call it "Smell-ta" or "Smelter" since that's where all the mainline jets are going. And Comair probably loves "Scamair" or "Cramair".... How about "CUMair," isn't that witty? Of course it's not. It's stupid.

If you can't spell Chautauqua then type CHQ or CHA. It's quite simple and will save a keystroke over "Chit."

 

[Anaconda]

As for sensitivity to our name... We *LIKE* our name. It is unique and has a good history behind it. It's also no more of a mouthfull than "Allegheny," "United," or "Waterski." I'm flat out sick of all the morons who think that calling us "Chit-Wah" is witty or original. It's stale. Come up with something else.

whatever, i guess you are sensitive to it i was just asking lighten the f up

 

[General Lee]

Easy there Skull, not everyone is against you. I thanksed you before for allowing some of our Delta furloughs to fly there without resigning their seniority number at Delta. Not everybody hates you. This is all about economic and labor's ability to negotiate a fair contract. You are working on a better contract, which you deserve. Your management is trying to squeeze you and get more bonuses for themselves eventually. Delta just wants cheaper feed, and will give it to the lowest bidder. The Comair contract is expensive for them (so is ours), and they will expand them slower than the less expensive feed--Chataqua. If people cannot see that you are trying to better your current contract, then they are blind.

Hey, isn't there a lake in NY called Lake Chataqua? Seriously, I think I saw it on the weather Channel last night--Dave Shwartz said it.

Bye Bye--General Lee