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Jackie Moon said:
We have all heard the rumor that delta asked asa to fly the 700's a little longer so gojet could get them up and running
Now I am hearing at the same time gojet went to delta and told them they couldn't do the contract at the rates agreed upon and renegotiated the contract to a point that was higher than asa's bid? Any truth to this. If so I don't think gojet will ever be in the running for any more delta flying.
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I heard Delta told GoJet to stuff it. I highly doubt Delta would renegotiate as ruthless as they are with DCI. I wouldn't worry about GoJet fellas. Trans States Holdings will soon be following PNCL into Bankruptcy. Hulas is playing the same game ole Phil Tenary was playing and eventually it catches up with you.


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Agreed. I don't see DAL renegotiating out of good spirit. It's plain and simple economics. DAL is ruthless with DCI, and it purely profit driven. I don't fault DAL for this, it's just the nature of the business and the buisiness model that SkyWest Inc. has opted to participate in, for the time being. Skywest Management is smiling and watching as GoJets "enjoys" their "at a loss" flying. Simply put, Skywest Inc. is going to be patient in an effort to be the "last man standing", so to speak. They'll outlast the competition, due to the fact that they have the money on hand to do so. This is just my opinion, however, and I have no facts at all to back this opinion up. Just a gut feeling.
 
Not to mention the E175 is eating their lunch, 76 seats with costs much higher than the competing CR9's, ouch!
 
trip said:
Not to mention the E175 is eating their lunch, 76 seats with costs much higher than the competing CR9's, ouch!
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E175s eating their lunch because they apparently agreed to a crap rate that barely breaks even if at all. Delta got such a good deal on the rates that's why they only sold Compass to TSA for what $20 mil? Wait til the maintenance costs start to pile up. A bankruptcy waiting to happen.

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777forever said:
E175s eating their lunch because they apparently agreed to a crap rate that barely breaks even if at all. Delta got such a good deal on the rates that's why they only sold Compass to TSA for what $20 mil? Wait til the maintenance costs start to pile up. A bankruptcy waiting to happen.

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Based on?

Any fact at all?

Any source of real information?

No, as usual.
 
DYLIN said:
Based on?

Any fact at all?

Any source of real information?

No, as usual.
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Delta Air Lines said Thursday it would sell two of its regional subsidiaries for a combined $82.5 million to shed less profitable routes from its system. The Atlanta carrier said it would sell Memphis-based Mesaba to Pinnacle Airlines Corp. for $62 million and Compass Airlines to St. Louis-based Trans States Holdings for $20.5 million.

The fact is it's burning 1K lbs per hour more than a CR9 carrying the same seats and more bags and no Dl is not paying up because it's more comfy.

When will the MRJ show up?
 
trip said:
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Delta Air Lines said Thursday it would sell two of its regional subsidiaries for a combined $82.5 million to shed less profitable routes from its system. The Atlanta carrier said it would sell Memphis-based Mesaba to Pinnacle Airlines Corp. for $62 million and Compass Airlines to St. Louis-based Trans States Holdings for $20.5 million.

The fact is it's burning 1K lbs per hour more than a CR9 carrying the same seats and more bags and no Dl is not paying up because it's more comfy.

When will the MRJ show up?
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Having flown both, it does not burn 1k more per hour
 
If I remember correctly (it has been a few years since I flew the 700/900) it is pretty much within 100 or 200# We burn about 1600-1800 a side at .77, which is about where I remember it being on the 700/900 where I used to work (we did CI flying so our speed varied a lot there).

I do think the CRJ does a bit better on gas, but they are the same engines as on the 900 (crj-900 engines have a little higher thrust rating). I thought the ERJ would burn more to before I actually flew it, but it really isn't as large as I thought.

We were burning 2100 a side at FL360 a side today but doing .80 as it was the freedom leg.
 
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wmuflyguy said:
If I remember correctly (it has been a few years since I flew the 700/900) it is pretty much within 100 or 200# We burn about 1600-1800 a side at .77, which is about where I remember it being on the 700/900 where I used to work (we did CI flying so our speed varied a lot there).

I do think the CRJ does a bit better on gas, but they are the same engines as on the 900 (crj-900 engines have a little higher thrust rating). I thought the ERJ would burn more to before I actually flew it, but it really isn't as large as I thought.

We were burning 2100 a side at FL360 a side today but doing .80 as it was the freedom leg.
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The CRJ 700/900 burns about the same at .82 or more. Normal burn for 700 is 1800-1900 at .80 (obviously temperature is a factor). 900 is about 100-200 higher. Freedom legs on 700-900 vary from .82-.85 "allegedly"!!!
 
On a different note, I heard today Asa will have about 7-8 700 lines flying out of new York next month, note sure of the logistics. Tdy or lots of deadheading I guess..
 
Yeah, it's in the deltanet PDF schedule starting in July. My guess is this is why they want to keep us fat on 700 pilots. We'll need the extra bodies to deal with LGA.
 
bigshooter107 said:
On a different note, I heard today Asa will have about 7-8 700 lines flying out of new York next month, note sure of the logistics. Tdy or lots of deadheading I guess..
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TDY is a temporary domicile assignment, so I'm guessing since JFK and LGA aren't domicles it'll be lots of DHs.
 
wmuflyguy said:
If I remember correctly (it has been a few years since I flew the 700/900) it is pretty much within 100 or 200# We burn about 1600-1800 a side at .77, which is about where I remember it being on the 700/900 where I used to work (we did CI flying so our speed varied a lot there).

I do think the CRJ does a bit better on gas, but they are the same engines as on the 900 (crj-900 engines have a little higher thrust rating). I thought the ERJ would burn more to before I actually flew it, but it really isn't as large as I thought.

We were burning 2100 a side at FL360 a side today but doing .80 as it was the freedom leg.
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When an airbus burns 2600 a side at .78 it makes you wonder how anyone makes money with an RJ. Not a knock, just amazing that for only 500# more then a 170 you can carry 75+ more folks.
 
But if you don't have 75 more peeps to go, then you pay money to fly those empty seats, which is quite expensive.
 

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