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I'm not necessarily disagreeing with what is being said here about no recalls until next spring, I think that is a definite possibility and I don't want to give false hope, but I wouldn't rule out some fall recalls, regardless of what is being spread at the FO summits. Why? I spoke with someone in flt ops a few weeks ago, while they stopped short of saying there would be recalls in the fall, they did point to three things that might help get pilots back:

1) There were already about 6 pilots who had turned in their retirement paperwork for the summer. Granted, I think they can change their minds right up until the day they walk.

2) The projected block hours for the fall don't drop off like they have in previous years for the same time period. I hear they are pretty close to summer block hours. Couple this with #3.

3) Remember all those vacations and recurrents they pushed out of the summer to staff the airline? Well they didn't just get moved up. Some got pushed into the fall. Add that to the requirement of SEA ETOPS training.

All in all, there are some improving trends. A few little less publicized tidbits. We are now keeping one more -400 through the end of the year (113 to 114 airplanes in the latest investor update) and we are adding back some capacity. I just saw the are adding another daily SEA-LAX roundtrip in the fall. The fall schedule is not yet finalized either so we may see more flying.

I think the final straw will be to see how well their staffing plan for summer unfolds. If there is a total meltdown, I personally think your could see a knee-jerk reaction to bring people back in the fall.

Just my $.02, but what do I know, I am just a juvenile delinquent who is no longer in uniform!;)
 
Let me hold my breath and wait and see how many captains retire! Please they are slopping up the gravy!! Why would they? Great schedule, sick leave to burn,choice vacations......etc.........
 
msmb said:
Let me hold my breath and wait and see how many captains retire! Please they are slopping up the gravy!! Why would they? Great schedule, sick leave to burn,choice vacations......etc.........
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Apparently, some of the ones who turned in their paperwork saw friends who were about their same vintage pass on. You could say they are reconsidering the "fly 'til you die" retirement program. But then again, like I said, they could change their mind and pull the plug on leaving right up until the day before they retire. The source is credible, I just don't want to print it here.
 
Does anyone know how much notice one needs to give at AS before retiring? I'm just curious if more might follow or if it will be too late to see anymore this summer.
 
During SLF checkairman said that it looks like they are going to be training PDX for ETOPS to. Wasn't sure if it was a short term item...or something that is just in the works for "the future." It only makes sense though...why have everybody at the airline trained for ETOPS except for a handlful in your smallest base. I actually think it makes more sense to train PDX first...then they'd be able to transfer the flying South sooner and have a bunch of reserves within an easy 45 minute deadhead of SEA if they needed it.

15 total reserves in ANC next month...With all the move days happening the first week...I don't think it's enough.
 
15 reserves in ANC for 69 lines is 21.7% coverage. I'm not disagreeing that it isn't enough. Is that below normal for ANC?

Take a look at the SEA base with 28 reserves and 309 lines. That is 9% coverage and woefully inadequate.

PDX has 45 lines and 19 reserves, 42% reserve coverage. Hmmmmm.
 
I ended up with a open-fly line is SEA (I was shocked) It has me at 89 hours! with carry-in from May. I tried to drop a couple of 2 days to get me down to about 77 hours and both were denied due to lack of reserves. SEA is gonna be a mess next month. PDX crews covering I would expect.
 
Fresh off recall training, back in ANC.

Got my first OF line...tried my first trade....denied, inadequate RSV coverage.

Tried a different trade....denied, inadequate RSV coverage.
 
Get used to it. Just remember there is always 3rd step trading. Very effective.
 
wscrj said:
Fresh off recall training, back in ANC.

Got my first OF line...tried my first trade....denied, inadequate RSV coverage.

Tried a different trade....denied, inadequate RSV coverage.
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So what did they have to do to get you re-qualed after furlough? How long was the training? Were you still within your recurrent cycle? I heard some of the most senior furloughs had recurrent right before they were furloughed. I am wondering if managements resistance to recall more pilots has something to do with the fact that the rest of us may need full or at least longer training cycles to come back to the line.
 
"Where'd whoooooo goooooooo?"

Dash8don said:
So what did they have to do to get you re-qualed after furlough? How long was the training? Were you still within your recurrent cycle? I heard some of the most senior furloughs had recurrent right before they were furloughed. I am wondering if managements resistance to recall more pilots has something to do with the fact that the rest of us may need full or at least longer training cycles to come back to the line.
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Correct...I went through CQ a mere 10 days before getting cut loose in OCT.

Training, for at least 3 of us, was a blur.

Day 1 Paperwork/FO summit
Day 2 FBS
Day 3 Sim (4 hrs)
Day 4 SE Trip
Day 5 SE Trip
Day 6 Off (and yet, stuck in KTN with a broken 800)
Day 7 Off
Day 8 TVL to ANC
Day 9 Arctic SLF (which requires 3 landing at arctic airports, while the trip only has 2. Long story short, a second arctic slf was req. Had they not mis-scheduled this trip, I would have been released from training on day 10 and sitting RSV in ANC on or after day 12)

I believe everyone else needed a full CQ.
 
Old School 737 said:
I ended up with a open-fly line is SEA (I was shocked) It has me at 89 hours! with carry-in from May. I tried to drop a couple of 2 days to get me down to about 77 hours and both were denied due to lack of reserves. SEA is gonna be a mess next month. PDX crews covering I would expect.
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Old School,

Contractually you are not required to fly over the monthly max. They may not be able to drop two of your trips, but they have to let you drop below 85 hours. It's in the contract.

CP
 
Any movement??? With the increased flying in the fall and new SAN flying, SJC-LIH, OAK-LIH. Anyone know if the block hours are going to be increases in the fall or stay the same as summer. Ran into a captain that is retiring in early september or so he said. so there is one spot.... Hopefully.
 
NWaviator said:
Any movement???
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Yes. I just got off the pot and had a good one.

NWaviator said:
With the increased flying in the fall and new SAN flying, SJC-LIH, OAK-LIH. Anyone know if the block hours are going to be increases in the fall or stay the same as summer. Ran into a captain that is retiring in early september or so he said. so there is one spot.... Hopefully.
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The block hours will be about 6% less in the fall. There will also be more vacation, more recurrent training, and ETOPS training for PDX and SEA that will last until July 2011. Will that be enough other stuff to bring anyone back? Who knows.
 
Section 14 G could bring some back. If anyone wants a doctors note just send a copy of your medical.
 
If the pilot staffing train wreck that started a couple weeks ago (and is only projected to get worse for the summer) isn't enough to get some recalls going then I'd say no recalls for a long time. Frankly, until staffing hurts the bottom line or the stock price, nobody in management cares.
 
Four cx'd flights over the past weekend in ANC due to a lack of First Officers....and it's not even the 4th of July.
 
igneousy2 said:
Four cx'd flights over the past weekend in ANC due to a lack of First Officers....and it's not even the 4th of July.
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Gee, that's too sad. And I had nothing to do that weekend.

I wish I could hear some of the conversations that go on between the bigwigs when they talk about cancellations like this.
 
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA9001/history/20100629/0600Z/KSEA/PHNL

This was flown over EMPTY to do video flights around the islands with Clay Lacy's Lear. How much do you supposed this cost? We have money to burn on this but can't bring back our furloughs? Once again the marketing department trumps the flight department in the running of the airline. Let them cancel all they want. I have been called twice in a week for JA. BTW, I heard sick calls are up again.
 

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