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So was I man. In fact, in my long-winded and bifurcated response, I was really just practicing writing...while trying to keep it somewhat relevant.Hey man, I was just yanking your chain a little for jumping on the guy so quick. It's no big deal - you're right about his titling of the thread but it's nothing to get worked up about. I was just having fun man.
In fact, I was just reviewing that turd I wrote and found a sentence where I had written a question and forgot to put a question mark after it...hahahahaha! People in glass houses should not throw stones...the kettle calling the pot black...do as I say, not as I do...yadda yadda yadda.
You are right; now that you mention it, I do remember the flows post. Flows are good! In fact, our facilitators down at the sim place were very adamant about using them. Great post on your part, by the way.
As far as busting on the kid...yea, I have to learn not to show my ass. I have been working on it for a long time now...I think I have improved over the years. I still can't resist a good target of opportunity now and then though.
You are right, and I agree...the question as to what the airline should or could do with this pilot is not a stupid one!
I think they should (without union consideration...this is just off the top of my head) at least keep him retained at full pay until there is a conviction, but I think it would be crazy to let him fly the line. Even if this pilot is innocent...he will have a lot on his mind and should not fly until he has his court date.
Where I worked at before I got into flying, a paper mill called James River Corp in GRB, there was a murder of a coworker by coworkers. They tossed him in a paper re-pulping vat, because he called the police on one of the "gang" and told them that there was going to be a theft of an extension cord.
http://www.truthinjustice.org/piaskowski-decision.htm
http://www.victimbar.org/vb/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=37386
I don't know what the pay status of the employees was leading into the trial, I believe they were suspended with pay pending trial. However, to make a long story even dumber, one of the 6 guys that was convicted for murder, got a federal court to overturn his conviction about 6 years after his imprisonment.
Here is where things get interesting, just before the federal courts acquitted this guy, his wife won a lawsuit against him that allowed her to get 100 percent of his retirement plan. Obviously, she had divorced her so called "murderer" husband.
So now, this poor joker convicted of murder with the others as a group, is a free and acquitted man. He lost his family, lost his pension, lost a very lucrative job and lost all that time and money defending him self against the murder charge and of course, he lost all that time in prison.
Here is what's not going to happen to this guy. His wife aint going to just come running back. She aint going to give up all that retirement money she sued him for. The mill aint going to offer him his old job back with back pay, and father time aint going to roll the clock back for him to recoup the '90s for him...he'll have nothing to reminisce pleasantly about while listening to Casey Casum play the '90s hits.
What he will be able to do, is sue like a mutha-for-yah. Just like my cop friend, who was a 16 year veteran cop and detective with the GBPD, that lost his job over handing the "gang" the dispatch tape of Tom Monfiles calling in the report of the extension cord theft. The gang got the tape because of the Freedom Of information Act.
Nothing like a little ‘stension cord, causing so much hub-bub.
Anyway, you see my correlation. These mill jobs paid 40 to 60 thousand a year (1990's wages by the way) and people were willing to kill to keep their jobs. When the prosecutors decided to try this case, they tried all these guys as one...since none of them would "squeal" on the other.
Well, I sure to the prosecutors dismay, it must be fun being sued. Same with James River, the police department and whoever else may be finding themselves getting listed on a tort case in an effort to make this innocent mans life "whole" again.
So, what do we do with the pilot? That is in fact, not such a stupid question. With the reputation of an ailing airline at stake, millions of dollars of wages and retirement benefits at stake, lots of liability issues at stake, parents in jeopardy of winding up in jail, children permanently injured by an alleged early introduction to partying, estates to sue...lot's going on here.
I think it is safe to say the airline should not let him fly but pay him till he is convicted. After that, only a genie could predict whether a decade later the guy is going to wind up getting acquitted after a review of his case by a supreme court, thus leading the way for a large lawsuit.
Thanks for the reply Big Duke Six...and the Kid with the flow problems is just going to have to grab his boot straps and get going on a good rejoinder when he gets a head noogie. He's gotta learn to stand his ground, regroup and deliver superior return fire.