Anyone see that news clip?

[ToiletDuck]

Did anyone see the newsclip today of the C-5 taking off with supplies in it to try and help that Russian crew? My friend and I were freaking out. The reporters and everyone didn't notice but it didn't even start to rotate until the thousand foot markers and went wheels up with about 300ft left. Pretty interesting.

 

[wmuflyguy]

nevermind

 

[ToiletDuck]

But it was taking off in perfect condition....

 

[FN FAL]

Main Entry: hys·te·ria
Pronunciation: his-'ter-E-&, -'tir-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from English hysteric, adjective, from Latin hystericus, from Greek hysterikos, from hystera womb; from the Greek notion that hysteria was peculiar to women and caused by disturbances of the uterus
1 : a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral functions
2 : behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess <political hysteria>

 

[FracCapt]

Did anyone see the newsclip today of the C-5 taking off with supplies in it to try and help that Russian crew? My friend and I were freaking out. The reporters and everyone didn't notice but it didn't even start to rotate until the thousand foot markers and went wheels up with about 300ft left. Pretty interesting.

So? Chances are they were way beyond V1(takeoff decision speed), so regardless of what went wrong, they were going flying.....they just elected to keep it on the runway longer to allow it to accelerate more(and more quickly) without the induced drag. On short runways(especially with warm weather), it's not abnormal to keep a jet on the runway until well beyond V1. When you're right on the jagged edge, let it accelerate on the ground...where it will accelerate faster than if it's struggling to climb.

 

[Kream926]

ever see that video of the fighter jet trying do to a go around but couldnt cause of induced drag? correct me if im wrong but isnt induced drag more <whats the word im looking for here> in jets than it is piston props?

 

[FracCapt]

correct me if im wrong but isnt induced drag more <whats the word im looking for here> in jets than it is piston props?

A jet, immediately after takeoff, is flying relatively close to its stall speed....which means the wing has to create a lot of lift with a little airspeed....which puts it in a similar situation as a straight wing plane flying just a couple knots above a stall. A big difference between a jet and a prop is that a prop plane(except pusher props) can induce airflow over the wings(by increasing power) and keep the airplane flying at a lower speed simply due to the airflow that the prop pushes over it. Make sense? I've been drinking...so it probably doesn't. Think of it this way. A prop driven plane has a lower stall speed power on than it does power off...same thing.

 

[viper548]

Depending on the priority of the mission, certain things can be waivered such as all 4 engines operating, balanced field length, 3 engine climb, etc.

 

[chperplt]

Sounds like a typical -80 take off in LGA.

 

[NookyBooky]

Did anyone see the newsclip today of the C-5 taking off with supplies in it to try and help that Russian crew? My friend and I were freaking out. The reporters and everyone didn't notice but it didn't even start to rotate until the thousand foot markers and went wheels up with about 300ft left. Pretty interesting.

Ah yes the dreaded 8,000 foot take off from a sea level field, those cargo hot shots have it rough......

 

[Donsa320]

ever see that video of the fighter jet trying do to a go around but couldnt cause of induced drag? correct me if im wrong but isnt induced drag more <whats the word im looking for here> in jets than it is piston props?

It was called the Sabre Dance....F-86's were prone to it.

~DC

 

[juan2go]

"it didn't even start to rotate until the thousand foot markers...."

Maybe they were just trying to use some of the runway that Air France didn't!

regards,

Juan

 

[LearLove]

It was called the Sabre Dance....F-86's were prone to it.

~DC

I think thats a F-100 in the video your talking about. The footage of that was used in the movie "the hunters" (and maybe some other movies) where they were flying 86's. Its all "george" you know.

 

[ToiletDuck]

Depending on the priority of the mission, certain things can be waivered such as all 4 engines operating, balanced field length, 3 engine climb, etc.

I'm pretty sure that on a C5 with something as simple as transporting a mini-sub they'd pick one from the fleet with all engines operating.

 

[CrewDawg]

I think learlove is right on this one. Back when my unit flew F-100's they lost a plane right here on the field and unfortunatly a pilot or two who go into "sabre dance."