Anyone has training contract and what type!

[Ace-of-the-Base]

>>Hmmmm, please let us all know where NOT to send a resume to.<<

I agree! Forget about being polite, you should let everyone in this forum know who this is and maybe they'll get enough "no" responses to change their ways. I work for a good company and I signed a "loan" to get the training, the only difference, the pay is GREAT and it was only a 2 year contract. "out" these bozos.

Ace

 

[Corona]

they are proposing five year contract and even after 5 years you not free!

I assume that with a five-year contract they will type you in every Lear, Hawker, Gulfstream, Challenger and any helo you desire. Also any other airplane that comes on certificate while you are in prison-excuse me, on contract.

I agree with Ace-of-the-Base: We need to know the name of this slimeball operation.

There's usually two reasons companies lose pilots: Either the pilots (all of them) are total flakes, or the company is a crappy place to work. Want to guess which one is more common?

C

 

[CUEBOAT]

one should be slapped silly for even considering a 5 year contract. get out before it's too late. Aviation just gets worse and worse by the day. what will be next ? Sign over the deed to your home along with your first born for some lousy jet time.

 

[Corona]

limodriver1: You still didn't tell us: Are they making you sign after-the-fact, or is it a condition of employment?

C

 

[RoughAir]

Boston-Maine Airways out of PSM requires 5 year contract to sign on with their Jetstream operation. That's right a 5 year committment.

If you go to the 727 side (which is at the moment in a holding pattern), you get to sign a 1 year contract.

Don't know about the legality side. All I can say is that tons of pilots have left and I'm not hearng the contract is being enforced! Or maybe it can't in NH?

 

[400A]

Rrrruuuuuunnnnnn!!!!!

Unless they are going to give you a 5 year no furlogh clause, with gauranteed industry wages and raises, then you would be crazy to sign it. Even with that I would still NEVER sign something like that.

The new hire's that we are bringing on will be reguired to sign a 1 year agreement, pro rated over 12 months. We type everyone.

Never did that till a bonehead quit after 2 months. Guys like this are why we are having to do this, but 5 years is insane.

We also pay industry standard wages.

 

[SabreFlyR]

No way would I sign a 5 year contract like that. I can go along with a one year pro rated contract, you should be willing to stay a year if the company is willing to spend the bucks to send you to school.

5 years is a long time, I would have to say so long and look for something else to do if they were to try and force me into signing something like that.

 

[Corona]

Boston-Maine Airways out of PSM requires 5 year contract to sign on with their Jetstream operation. That's right a 5 year committment.

It occurred to me that the military requires an 8 year commitment after 2 yrs of UFT; total of 10 years. If one's going to sign one's life away, why not fly something more interesting than a Jetstream? My first choice? F15, of course.

I can't imagine what kind of company Fidiots dreamed up this scheme.

C

 

[ACT700]

All these training contracts are crap. They don't hold up in court. That's the cost of doing business; and if a company types you and then you leave, they must not have had to good working conditions to begin with.
What I don't get is all these (scumbag) companies complain about training costs and high turnover, yet they treat their pilots like total crap: screw with schedules and pay, maintenance sucks, etc.
If I ran a company I would look at what it takes to keep good employees; if they are happy than you don't have to worry as much about training and turnover!

Oh, and let's not forget one of my favourite traning contracts of all:
"Here is the manual (a cheap Kinko's copy of a copy of a copy of the original), study it and know it.
Then, you will ride along on trips, log the 91 legs, and at some point you will have a current 8410."

Looks like I owe myself 8grand!!! Better stay the year, cause I don't have that kind of money!!!

 

[flyfastinmy10]

My last company had me and everyone else sign a 2 year initial contract and then a 1 year recurrent contract. This was disclosed up front and each year it gave me the chance to renegotiate pay. I didn't like it and no one does but they needed to protect themselves. initial contracts were 15K to 30K depending on the aircraft. These contracts were also prorated.

I left with 6 months remaining and paid back $4,000. It kept me from making a lateral move and when the right job came along it was a no brainer.

Everyone wants to know if you can get out of paying. The answer is yes but are you willing to burn a bridge. remember they will be contacted by all future employers. They also can cost you more in legal fees.