Any SWA or Airtran pilots see recent SLI at Mesaba/Colgan/Pinnacle?

[Kharma Police]

Kharma,

No threat. If your pilot group as a whole is like the 3% on this board I hope you push HARD for arbitration.

Gup

We would, but your 3% have said they will pull a, "USAPA" and not accept an arbitrators ruling if they don't like what it says. NICE!

 

[Dolce]

KP,

Hell...I asked just once. What gets me is some of the delusional people who respond with the ALPA generated answers...want to talk crazy.

D

 

[Dolce]

KP,

Like I said, they know all the azzholes on both sides! It's not a threat...everyone needs to tone it down a few notches. Quit highlighting yourselves! BTW, only a Kernal Lite, but I'll willing to promote myself to full Kernal if it means I don't take it too much in the azz when all is said and decided on!

KP...I like flying on AT! Y'all have taken care of me several times along with my family. I honestly have no animosity towards anyone over there. I would like anyone to truthfully acknowledge what's really going on with this acquisition and how it really affects everyone involved. What I see for me and my bros are just promises of everything will be great if you just shut-up and sing...and BTW you'll have great non-rev opportunities to Jamaica! Seriously dude...if you were in my shoes what would you think?

D

 

[vixin]

I know a guy hired AAI in 2000 about 3500tt, NO 121, NO military (the 500 121pic was a req then) NO degree and very little turbine PIC except a few hundred hours in a Caravan. He fudged his log books (He would log PIC when I was his CA). Real nice guy with the exception of his qualifications.

 

[Lonestar]

Gup,

Whether you're a moderator, pilot out on medical or ex-ALPA committee member...they probably know what you're saying. Kinda sucks to "not fly under the radar" and repeatedly lash out and "bite the hand" which may potentially feed you!

D

I agree. Its really a shame because I do think that despite what gets said on this forum, these are probably good guys. I would hate to be in their shoes, however, coming in basically as a new-hire on probation with no longevity. I would want to lay low in that case. I can't imagine being on probation with my mgmt already having so much knowledge about what I've said 'anonymously'.

Soon, PCL will come on to say that is illegal; that SWA can't force probation on them, or start their longevity at year one. In that case, I would ask that he first find anything that backs that up. Hint: There isn't!

 

[Cometman]

Some people have to read it a few times to understand reality. You can try to refute it, if you want.


Bye Bye---General Lee

You are correct. However, enough is enough. You say the same thing over and over. Everybody is tired of it. Nobody listens anymore. You tried and tried to convince people of how you think. It is over. You are suppose to be a Delta Pilot. Act like it and stop. This goes for OYS also. I doubt if he is a real Delta Pilot. He shows F15 on his profile. I doubt he was a Military pilot the way he acts on this site.

 

[General Lee]

You are correct. However, enough is enough. You say the same thing over and over. Everybody is tired of it. Nobody listens anymore. You tried and tried to convince people of how you think. It is over. You are suppose to be a Delta Pilot. Act like it and stop. This goes for OYS also. I doubt if he is a real Delta Pilot. He shows F15 on his profile. I doubt he was a Military pilot the way he acts on this site.

I enjoy this site. I enjoy aviation debate, and I like to give my opinion. That isn't wrong. People can choose to ignore me, or can join in the fun and enjoy the debate. It's not supposed to be hurtful, rather entertainment and some enlightenment. Rumors are welcome too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PCL_128]

Soon, PCL will come on to say that is illegal; that SWA can't force probation on them, or start their longevity at year one. In that case, I would ask that he first find anything that backs that up. Hint: There isn't!

I have no idea whether that's legal or not. It's such a ridiculous idea, that I've never thought to ask an attorney about it.

 

[GuppyWN]

This message is hidden because General Lee is on your ignore list.

I feel better.

Gup

 

[redflyer65]

Funny how the Deltoid Duo have to post on any, and every Southwest thread.

 

[Lonestar]

I have no idea whether that's legal or not. It's such a ridiculous idea, that I've never thought to ask an attorney about it.

Then I would say that you better study up on SWA aquisition history:

1. Morris pilots had probation
2. Muse/Transtar pilots had proba... wait. My mistake, not all of them. Just the ones that were lucky enough to get an interview had probation.

 

[Dolce]

Flew with a Transtar last month...had to wait three years to finally get here. Had a lot of good things to say about ALPA. Yes, they were ALPA when they were shutdown. He really appreciated the literature he received while out on the street. But like the majority of all pilots, he's a good sh!t who played the cards he was dealt. He also was on probation for a year!

D

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Flew with a Transtar last month...had to wait three years to finally get here. Had a lot of good things to say about ALPA. Yes, they were ALPA when they were shutdown. He really appreciated the literature he received while out on the street. But like the majority of all pilots, he's a good sh!t who played the cards he was dealt. He also was on probation for a year!

D

We can only hope that you'll be good sh!ts and play the cards you are dealt, we will. You could learn a lot from that guy .

 

[Dolce]

Luv,

Funny moniker for someone who'll be taking over SWA in the near future. I'm going to vent some more. Funny how you think you'll slide into SWA with relative seniority and the massive pay and benefits. You're living in a fantasy world and need to step away from the ALPA teet and not believe everything they're telling you. You are part of GH and I'll bet you GK knows he has more to lose with 6000 SWA pilots than 1600 AT. You wanna make that bet? I'm more than sure if the company (SWA and not AT) hasn't let your union know how it should be, they soon will! I'm more than willing to tell you GK has said he has SWA employees backs and understands the negative effect of screwing us through this acquisition! So why don't you really step back and reflect whether you'll be able to live with the hand you're dealt and learn from Trannystar! You willing to roll those bones? Arbitration isn't a guaranteed home run for you guys...any outcome!

D

 

[Dolce]

Dicko,

Buying someone...word was for the last three years it would be AT. I do have a "big picture" perspective that I've kept from my former job. I also realize when someone has a sudden boost of self-worth and is demanding the moon for the privilege of working for SWA. AT is like the FUGLY military female who deploys to Korea or the desert. Her stock skyrockets and she thrives on the high until she's biotch-slapped back to reality when she arrives back home to the states! Like I said before, people in your company was begging for someone to purchase AT. Now you're walking into the highest paid wages for equipment with benefits and want more. Keep on smoking whatever ALPA is giving you because you won't pass a drug test! BTW...enjoy the plane ride back to reality!

D

 

[funnyman12]

Thanks Dolce you make me feel like a piece of sh*t pilot. Can't wait to work with you.....Us Airtran guys called Gary and put the deal together ourselves. Hopefully we are on the street and can foreclose on our homes once we are never integrated. BTW show me one post in months were an Airtran guy mentions relative seniority????? I can't find it. Thanks for thinking about my family. Also us guys are damn good pilots with a similar culture as your pilot group. Don't talk to us like your Neil Armstrong and we are student pilots......sad.

 

[ATLplt]

Nevermind....not even worth it.

 

[General Lee]

Funny how the Deltoid Duo have to post on any, and every Southwest thread.

What is wrong with me responding Red? This is a forum, and I enjoy it. Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't mean I have to stop. I keep it civil, give my advice, and that's it. You can ignore me like Gup if you can't take the truth. If you want to try to refute something, you can, and I will respond. Welcome to America.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Dolce]

Funnyman,

All I hear from AT post is "wait for arbitration" because we'll get ours and keep ours because ALPA has never lost a seat! Are you telling me your union isn't trying for relative seniority? Are you telling me you would be willing for best case DOH with a feather of some ratio because of the pay bump and benefits you'll get? I have no animosity against any AT pilots...well the flame-baiters where I return in kind. Do you think it's fair to SWA pilots to not get anything out of SWAs acquisition of AT except a promise of things to come so a 5 year AT FO can move ahead of my 10 year azz? Where is this money coming from to purchase AT...my profit sharing which is supposed to fund part of my retirement. Do I get any bumps in compensation? Does my QOL improve or do I get a better benefit package? Do I get reimbursed for my type I paid for out of my pocket? Now why don't you respond to my post after understanding my gripe. When everything works out I think you and your family will be better off
more than ever! So why don't you quit talking to me in your condescending
tone and read some of the post of your brethren TW, PCL, etc. then get back
to me!

D

 

[General Lee]

Dicko,

Buying someone...word was for the last three years it would be AT. I do have a "big picture" perspective that I've kept from my former job. I also realize when someone has a sudden boost of self-worth and is demanding the moon for the privilege of working for SWA. AT is like the FUGLY military female who deploys to Korea or the desert. Her stock skyrockets and she thrives on the high until she's biotch-slapped back to reality when she arrives back home to the states! Like I said before, people in your company was begging for someone to purchase AT. Now you're walking into the highest paid wages for equipment with benefits and want more. Keep on smoking whatever ALPA is giving you because you won't pass a drug test! BTW...enjoy the plane ride back to reality!

D

Pure comedy. Some jet pilots in the Colgan/Pinnacle/Mesaba merger probably thought that the Colgan (all turboprop) guys didn't derserve good seniority too in their SLI, yet the arbitrator gave them Capt spots and mixed them in with everyone else. If you go to arbitration, you have a good chance of getting the same. This guy is so full of himself, and it would be worth it to anyone on the Airtran side to get in front of this guy on your integrated list, and remind him of his arrogance whenever possible. Really, just mentally copy this guy's post and never forget that there are people out there that think this way. Not everyone, but there are some. If this doesn't illustrate my point about arbitration, I don't know what does. Thanks for the push D......


Bye Bye----General Lee