Any "Latest & Greatest" About Atlas?

[Talon757]

I can see this is beginning to devolve into the usual FI.com thrash. All I can tell you is I think this is a good gig and I am enjoying life very much here. Some may not. If it fits you then come on in, the water's fine. If it doesn't that's OK too. Neither of us is wrong, we just look for different things. Flying from Fresno to Oakland to Sacramento three times a week wouldn't be high on my list. On the other hand, randomly wandering the planet with a constantly changing schedule is an adventure...but not if you don't like that sort of thing. I get to do what I like and get paid pretty well for it. Doesn't get much better than that!

 

[Fliteidol]

It's 17 days, it's concessionary for us Polar guys; but, a slight improvement for Atlas...we could have done much much better imho...

We are all entitled to our own opinions. As more of this rolls out I`m thinking it is concessionary for everyone.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

The rig will pay huge and the hourly rates went up significantly. Always room for improvement. The retirement contribution and vacation could be significantly better. The paychecks will tell the story over the next few months.

As far as time off, my lines to bid from were 13-14 days of work. Leaving 17-18 days off next month. That seems pretty good to me.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

that's a good point and that's what I'm getting too.... There are many guys making 10K a month working even for bottom feeder Miami 36th street outfits who basically live on the road... but I want a job where I put in my 50-60% of a months calendar and make that...

It's always a bad sign when someone says "The reason I'm liking this job, is my last job was so bad..." a good job is absolute, not relative.

Miami Freight, what sort of work rules are gone? I'm curious... Cause I know people at Evergreen for example who have a 12 hour call out and sit reserve 12 hours on 12 hours off... They are also prohibited from being extended more than 2 days (must be home by the 2nd day,and that ticket is business class).

how is that at Atlas now? Are you at their beckon call? How long ARE the layovers and what is the maximum they can extend you without your consent?

Hope you all didn't take one step forward and two steps back.

I would challenge you to find a company to make that kind of money on first year pay aside from FedEx, UPS, or Southwest. Those MIA freight outfits you speak of must be MIA based UPS pilots.

 

[HA25]

I would challenge you to find a company to make that kind of money on first year pay aside from FedEx, UPS, or Southwest. Those MIA freight outfits you speak of must be MIA based UPS pilots.

actually sounds very good... hope it works out.

 

[big pimpn']

This contract is way too long... We will own this thing for 10 years. We pretty much lost profit sharing; oh yeah, just keep the first 75 million! Got screwed on scope, we lost our disfavored carrier protection so now u can enjoy a nice flight on China Eastern or Aeroflot on your 24 hour tour around the world, our BUG went from 65 to 62, and oh yeah, keep us out another day! that's cool! instead of getting paid 6 hours for the home study I just completed I get paid 3. The deadhead I just completed will get paid out at a third instead of half, and how the hell did we just sign off on a contract without any sort of line guarantee? Not to mention they took out 400 dollars from my last paycheck for hotel tax...oh yeah! These Assclowns have been making us pay the taxes on our hotels when we sit reserve in base...this is insane. But; oh yeah! I'm making a ton of money with a really high rig! wow!

 

[big pimpn']

I like my job; it's a good job. I don't mean to bitch. It's just hard to watch this go down, we had such a great chance to negotiate an amazing contract with a company making record profits and sitting on a billion in cash buying airplanes and growing like crazy. We could have really done something great; but, instead we negotiated this contract in the same fashion as the Cards pitching staff last night... It's just hard to watch. I wanted better, you guys deserve better and I know that we could have gotten better. It's still a great place to work and I'll leave it at that

 

[Sir Innocenti]

These Assclowns have been making us pay the taxes on our hotels when we sit reserve in base...

How is this legal if its a requirement for reserve and*****the company is putting you in a hotel?

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Big Pimpn: You have some really good points that I think should be addressed. The early opener is in 4 years and we need guys like you to be ready when we can start.

I totally agree with some of your concerns and others I do not. Profit Sharing is a joke. A corporation has so much latitude to show a profit or a loss that it is not even funny. If I was the CFO and had the choice of paying out profit sharing or paying cash for a brand new 747-8 which one do you think I would do? I would rather take higher pay rates than profit sharing that is left up to our management to decide if we get it our not.

I would also like a higher guarantee but most of the time it won't matter. It is the rig, not hours flown, or guarantee that is paying out for these lines. Our kind of flying will almost always have the rig paying rather than either hard time or guarantee.

Deadhead pay....I agree with you 100%. We should get paid more for that. In most cases, even if we got more credit for that, the rig should pay out more.

Taxes....I agree with you 100%. I heard a rumor that since the company views our hotel in base as compensation and takes out taxes that our union is asking why we are not getting the match on that compensation in our 401k....Brilliant Move! I hope this fight gets traction.

Scope...I agree with you 100%. This should be first on our list to fix with the new contract. Without scope, none of the rest of what we are talking about even matters.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Soooo.....Anyway.......How about those 767s? Anybody have any info on them other than what has been officially announced?

 

[bjack]

The first 767 is out flying. They did the mini-evac and doing ETOPS runs I believe this weekend or early next week. It was doing bounces up in the NY area on the 1st.

The second 767 was pulled into the hangar for paint on Tuesday if memory serves me. It was sitting on the ramp all taped up for a few days. Not sure when that one will be out.

The third one has been picked out and is coming from Air Canada, but from what JC told the new hire class a couple weeks ago the deal is not totally done.

Sounds like OE for the first class of captains end of the month.

 

[johnsonrod]

Are all recent newhires getting the 767? What about future classes - what will be the likely mix between 767 and 744 for newhires?

 

[maxcackel]

Mix for now.

 

[johnsonrod]

Will all of the 767s initially be used on DHL routes out of CVG? Only domestic flying? Anyone know more details on how the 767s will be used? I thought a few would be used for MAC passenger charters but I could be wrong...

 

[maxcackel]

Five 767's that DHL owns and Atlas will crew will most likely do night hub turns out of CVG and three that Atlas is buying and own will be passenger for the military.