Any flight schools hiring CFI's?

[Tailwind]

I don't have the CFI-I yet, just getting the commercial. I have heard that some schools will put you at the top of their hiring pool if you get the CFI-I with them.
Is that accurate?

Do you know of any flight schools who are looking for full time CFI's?

Thanks for any help.

Tailwind

 

[jws717]

This is true, i work at a school that is not hireing any outside applicants. But i hear KHWO in south florida has a few schools that are hurting for CFIs. Its always best to walk in a resume yourself or have a friend recomend you, dont fax it.

 

[navigator72]

Yes, but where are you located?

 

[hyperboy]

Aviation Atlanta

Last I heard recently Aviation Atlanta was hiring out of PDK. I instructed out of there back rigth after 9/11 and still got 1000 hours in less than a year there. Plenty of students , great place to train ATL class B area. Phil the owner is looking for motivated go getters. pm me with your phone number and I will be glad to help you out!

 

[cxcap]

Why would you want to be a CFI? Just skip it and go straight to the airlines.

 

[Lear Lackey]

Try Pontiac Flight Service at Oakland County Intl. (PTK) Just north of Detroit.

 

[Tailwind]

Good one cxcap. Even though many airlines have lowered their experience requirements, with my time I still don't think I'd make the cut. Besides, I would still need the Multi-Comm. rating unless there are airlines out there flying single engine pistons.



I'm currently in the Atlanta area, but have the freedom to travel anywhere in the country. My first choice would be a school like Embry-Riddle, Phoenix East, or any established academy. I just don't know exactly how to get into an instructor position at Embry-Riddle since I graduated from a different college.



Will a school like Embry-Riddle hire an instructor off the street?

Or at least let them train for the CFI-I with them and then join the team as an instructor? Their web site says they will train outsiders on a space available basis, usually in the summer. Any gouge on this sure would be appreciated.



Thanks again for all your advice.




Tailwind

 

[EngineOut]

Most of the University-like settings require 200+ dual given before they'll even look at the resume. That is just my (and my coworkers) experience, though. You never know. Timing is everything...well, check that. Who you know is everything, timing is everything else. Seniority is all that and a bag of chips.

 

[hindsight2020]

Wait a second, folks who graduate from those schools get hired as CFI's at the school and these 22y/o's don't have 200 dual given. What they have is a degree (which is required to be a CFI at a university) and the blessing of having gone through the program.

I've done quite a bit of research on university CFI positions and the thing of it is that as far as the public universities go, most are required to publish the openings nationally (of course we all know that may not yield any noticeable outside hiring but at least you're able to apply for them). Engine-out is probably right in so far as the competition is concerned, it probably does take someone with 200 dual to bite into the system whe you are an outsider, but looking at their internal hiring you will quickly recognize that is blatant inconsistency in hiring standards.

The problem is that your intentions with the job matter as well. For most-time builders the job offers a salary, which is great considering 8 out of 10 of your friends are getting hourly, and a setting that predicates good equipment. So there have been people who jump ship, get burned a little and then come back and realize they can't get their old job back and they hurt, knowing that the FBO down the street won't get them the setting they were accustomed to.

If you're into aviation education ( such as yours truly), the job is predicated on not just your CFI credentials but your formal education as well, and no we're not talking about a degree in AS.

So my point is that it depends on what you want to do. If you're a time-builder then Engine-Out is probably right about the university track; it's an above average CFI gig and the line is long for those who didn't graduate in-house, if you're not a time-builder you might be able to pitch a different angle but that's a whole other post.

Starting out part-time somewhere and build dual given would not be negative in your quest for a university CFI gig, althought I personally find it sad that the contentions have gotten so entrenched, one now needs to go through "ladders of employment" WITHIN what is already considered the bottom rung of aviation jobs, talk about hamster-wheel dynamics.

Good luck man

 

[EngineOut]

Wait a second, folks who graduate from those schools get hired as CFI's at the school and these 22y/o's don't have 200 dual given. What they have is a degree (which is required to be a CFI at a university) and the blessing of having gone through the program.

I've done quite a bit of research on university CFI positions and the thing of it is that as far as the public universities go, most are required to publish the openings nationally (of course we all know that may not yield any noticeable outside hiring but at least you're able to apply for them). Engine-out is probably right in so far as the competition is concerned, it probably does take someone with 200 dual to bite into the system whe you are an outsider, but looking at their internal hiring you will quickly recognize that is blatant inconsistency in hiring standards.

The problem is that your intentions with the job matter as well. For most-time builders the job offers a salary, which is great considering 8 out of 10 of your friends are getting hourly, and a setting that predicates good equipment. So there have been people who jump ship, get burned a little and then come back and realize they can't get their old job back and they hurt, knowing that the FBO down the street won't get them the setting they were accustomed to.

If you're into aviation education ( such as yours truly), the job is predicated on not just your CFI credentials but your formal education as well, and no we're not talking about a degree in AS.

So my point is that it depends on what you want to do. If you're a time-builder then Engine-Out is probably right about the university track; it's an above average CFI gig and the line is long for those who didn't graduate in-house, if you're not a time-builder you might be able to pitch a different angle but that's a whole other post.

Starting out part-time somewhere and build dual given would not be negative in your quest for a university CFI gig, althought I personally find it sad that the contentions have gotten so entrenched, one now needs to go through "ladders of employment" WITHIN what is already considered the bottom rung of aviation jobs, talk about hamster-wheel dynamics.

Good luck man

You are correct. I was speaking of "outsider" requirements. Insider standards vary greatly. Generally, as an outsider myself, I found the 200 dual given is a must for the ERAUs, UNDs, MAPDs of the CFIing world.