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William Holiday

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Who is thinking what about this economy, where do you think it's heading and can the frac world do anything about it.
 

GSXR600

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Don't know but I am taking my girl on the picture out to stimulate the economy!
That may help a little..............
 

brokeflyer

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nope, we're all screwd...we all shoulda went to medical school.
 

av8trinabarrel

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uhhhh!
If all the Net Jets pilots would quit complaining about their crew meals all the time, this mess never would have happened in the first place.

When they finally quit bragging about not being furloughed, the economy will turn around and we can all be one big happy disfunctional family again!:D
 

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If all the Net Jets pilots would quit complaining about their crew meals all the time, this mess never would have happened in the first place.

When they finally quit bragging about not being furloughed, :D
You had to bring up Netjets didn't you? you guys always bring NJ into any discussion, then you guys bitch that we "highjack threads" when we respond.

I fly for NetJets, I've never bragged about NJ not furloughing. I'm not even at the bottom of the list and I'm a afraid for my job.

av8trinabarrel, I'm so sorry we haven't furloughed. Please accept my apologies.
 

av8trinabarrel

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I work for Net Jets TOO!

I'm 250 from the bottom...lighten up Francis!

SARCASM...........
 

av8trinabarrel

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Hey Cal...how high did I get your bloodpressure with my first response.:D

I was just poking fun at all the Net Jets haters. I have yet to see one of our own wish ill will upon others here on FI, yet take so much crap for being with a company that has not furloughed or treated its employees like trash.

I am truly grateful to have my job and for however long it lasts, I will enjoy the ride!

No more responses about Net Jets. Sorry for hijacking the orignal thread.....carry on!
 

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About 2 years ago I started pulling out of the market because I saw this mess coming (great econ professors at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy back in the 60's.) Anyway, back then I thought the bottom would be around 8000 on the Dow. Now I fear things are going to be worse. Today my wife went to the dentist at 2PM. On the way out the receptionist commented on how they didn't have another patient coming in for 3 hours (business has been steadily tanking over the past 6 months.) Damn near any business sector you can think of around here, has been laying off people or going under(northeast PA.) The under regulated mess in the financial sector still hasn't been totally exposed. For the sake of my children and grandchildren, I hope for the best and wish President Obama success in dragging Congress along before it's too late.
 

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My $1.50 which is worth about the cost of a grande coffee.

The feds are throwing everything at this problem, TARP, infastructure, tax cuts, etc. IF this works, look for a turnaround in late 09, if it doesn't work this recession will last longer.

I'm not a doom and gloom guy. If the stimulus doesn't work we still live in the most productive, inovative, educated, and suceesfull country in the world. We're not a country of fear and we'll figure this out too. It may be painful for a while but, and this is cliche, it provides oppourtunity.

I apologize for all the spelling mistakes.
 

Willy21

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That would make for some interesting FI threads.
 

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Things will get better. Maybe not rigt away though. I hope we have learned a lesson or four about bubbles and what causes them. My guess is there will be abother bubble burst in the comming months..(credit card consumer debt). People are so far behind on their debt, and losing their job so something has to give. Serves alot of the credit card companies right!

I wonder what the aviation landscape will look like when the smoke from this (economic) crash clears?

Will United still be flying? U.S. Airways? How will SWA be doing? Fractionals, cargo? Who knows?!?
 

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We as much as anything are going through a re-evaluation of values. For some time, real estate holdings have been enveloped in a bubble that was sure to have problems. The market went up enthusiastically based on products many did not understand.
Now we are faced with the sobering burst of taking a hard look at values. When we get to the point people look and see things settled, we will head back up.
Our business, being one of the hot spots of the last few years will kool off even more rapidly than it exploded as public perception will by negative for sometime towards business aviation. Even those whose personal wealth makes this all a non event may end up being somewhat subdued.
In the end, it is a matter of time. The companies that could not make profits when things were good, well they are not going to make it now. The ability to sustain thought this type market for any period of time is going to be rough. Corporate for companies in the public eye, they will be looked at closely. Charter is going to be very thin in many areas. On demand freight, auto parts flying, the eastbound heavy freight, all will change.
 

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Charter is going to be very thin in many areas. On demand freight, auto parts flying, the eastbound heavy freight, all will change.
All thats already happened my friend...
 

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If people would just stop whining and saving their money instead of doing their patriotic duty to go out and buy tons of stuff they can't afford and probably don't need in the first place, then all this recession blather would be a thing of the past.

Who's with me? Plasma screens and Hummers and iPods for all! God Bless America! Kill, kill, kill!

Uhm ... sorry about that. Got a little carried away there.

Seriously, though, we could use a good war. It got things going again in '41 ...
 

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If people would just stop whining and saving their money instead of doing their patriotic duty to go out and buy tons of stuff they can't afford and probably don't need in the first place, then all this recession blather would be a thing of the past.

Who's with me? Plasma screens and Hummers and iPods for all! God Bless America! Kill, kill, kill!

Uhm ... sorry about that. Got a little carried away there.

Seriously, though, we could use a good war. It got things going again in '41 ...
Typical armchair warrior statement.

Who's we? You got a mouse n your pocket?
 

cherry20's

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If people would just stop whining and saving their money instead of doing their patriotic duty to go out and buy tons of stuff they can't afford and probably don't need in the first place, then all this recession blather would be a thing of the past.

Actually we need people to start spending money, that they can afford to spend, to get out of this recession... If everyone started saving all their money, it would put us in a deeper recession.

Oh course, I'm not saying go buy a house or car you can't afford. That would just add to the problem, obviously!
 
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