Anvantair Santo talks about taking marketshare

[rajflyboy]

Raj,

If "props are for boats" as you so eloquently stated (you probably stayed up all night making up that little quip - how original), then why are you blowing the KingAir like it's the end all to be all of aviation? Too bad you can't be happy for us that we've found something that works for us and that our customers are happy with.

I have no problem with Avantair doing well but I don't by any means think that a Piaggio is a better aircraft than a King Air. I have time in all the above King Airs except the 350. King Air is a solid airplane and works well for its mission in aviation.

 

[C425Driver]

I have no problem with Avantair doing well but I don't by any means think that a Piaggio is a better aircraft than a King Air. I have time in all the above King Airs except the 350. King Air is a solid airplane and works well for its mission in aviation.

I have time in both KingAirs and Piaggios and I don't think that the KingAir is a better plane than the Piaggio, nor do I think that the Piaggio is a better plane than the KingAir. Both aircraft have their design missions and they both do them well. Does it make one of them superior to the other? Having experience in both of them, I say neither are the superior aircraft because their intended missions are different - you can't really compare a sports car to an SUV. Both are solid airplanes and work well for their intended mission.

 

[BoilerUP]

Okay, get out the popcorn.

I used to jump seat when I was at the airlines. I lived in MCO and commuted to ORD. I flew on UAL in a B-757 or A-320. Flight time was 2:20. I did it over a gazillion times so take my word on the flight time.

I just did yet another fltplan.com flight plan in a Piaggio from KORD to KMCO using a previous flight plan with the arrival included. Guess what the flight time is...

It's 2:44 with a 1,984 lb burn. ORD to MCO is not the BOS to TEB others said the P180 is suited to. We're talking 904 nm and the Piaggio is 24 minutes longer than a freaking Beoing 757!

Did I mention the burn is under 300 gal? Anybody want to post the burn in their aircraft? Want to post the time?

2+39 and 2254lb in the CJ2+, 1300CT departure today.

When I run fltplan.com's Avanti II profile over the same routing & departure time, it shows 3+00 & 1718lb @ FL390 and 2+44 & 2080lb @ FL310.

The operating economics of such an aircraft really are impressive...

 

[Geronimo4497]

Are there any fractional or charter companies that operate 50+ King Airs (of any model)?

I would say that the 'public' is more than willing to flying in the Italian Star Ship. That's right, I have time in the ISS.

 

[rajflyboy]

Are there any fractional or charter companies that operate 50+ King Airs (of any model)?

I would say that the 'public' is more than willing to flying in the Italian Star Ship. That's right, I have time in the ISS.

Flying in a Piaggio is like taking your sister to the prom. You get to go on the trip but you sure won't have any fun along the way!!

 

[glasspilot]

You're an idiot.

 

[C425Driver]

Flying in a Piaggio is like taking your sister to the prom. You get to go on the trip but you sure won't have any fun along the way!!

You took you sister to the prom? Man, that's just wierd but you need to get over it. Really. It's okay.

 

[fob727]

You're an idiot.

For someone talking trash all the time, you sure do have thin skin.:beer:

 

[rajflyboy]

For someone talking trash all the time, you sure do have thin skin.:beer:

If you can't run with the BIG DOGS then get off the porch!!

HE He

Glasspilot can't run with the big dogs.

 

[wacoflyr]

I have a siberian husky. If you can run with her, then you're an animal. And you have four legs.

 

[glasspilot]

Sorry, I just don't get the whole sister / prom thing. If it's some referance to something then it went way over my head and I'm an idiot.

If you're actually comparing an airplane to dates with your sister then see my above post.

 

[rajflyboy]

Sorry, I just don't get the whole sister / prom thing. If it's some referance to something then it went way over my head and I'm an idiot.

If you're actually comparing an airplane to dates with your sister then see my above post.

My Analogy is dead on.

People will fly on an Avanti if its the only way they can afford a private flight >>> But you know the minute they get more money they are going to get back in the JET

 

[brokeflyer]

I'm an idiot.

ahem.....well

 

[wacoflyr]

Woof!

.04

 

[glasspilot]

My Analogy is dead on.

People will fly on an Avanti if its the only way they can afford a private flight >>> But you know the minute they get more money they are going to get back in the JET

Okay, you might be right. Maybe Avantair has 800 owners that are just waiting to go back to a jet.


...or, maybe you are an idiot. ...who happens to date his sister.