Another MOU agreed to at US Airways, if you believe it

[Tweaker]

Over the holidays, much work went into achieving a newly proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). Today, your Board of Pilot Representatives voted unanimously to recommend the proposed MOU to you, the pilots of USAPA, for your review and ratification. If all parties agree to the terms of the MOU, it would serve as a framework for an agreement if American Airlines and US Airways merge. If not approved by the other parties to the MOU, or if there is no merger between the two carriers, the MOU would be rendered null and void. If the other parties approve the MOU, but the USAPA pilots do not ratify it, the MOU will apply to the other parties, but not to us.

 

[General Lee]

Yeah, this time the Easties SWEAR they will abide by the agreement, whatever it is, unless.......Nicolau is anywhere nearby.....No, he can't be trusted......he.....doesn't....understand....how we feel.....It's...not...fair!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[CavePilot]

Hush genital. You know both sides are guilty of looking out for #1...just like every other pilot I've ever met.

 

[Turtle21]

Over the holidays, much work went into achieving a newly proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). Today, your Board of Pilot Representatives voted unanimously to recommend the proposed MOU to you, the pilots of USAPA, for your review and ratification. If all parties agree to the terms of the MOU, it would serve as a framework for an agreement if American Airlines and US Airways merge. If not approved by the other parties to the MOU, or if there is no merger between the two carriers, the MOU would be rendered null and void. If the other parties approve the MOU, but the USAPA pilots do not ratify it, the MOU will apply to the other parties, but not to us.

None of the "other parties" agreed to it yet, and required the USAPA BPR to say "yes" first, yet DUI keeps saying that he doesn't need us to agree to a merger and he will move ahead without us. Sounds like a typical snake oil salesman. If he doesn't need a "yes" from us, why is he begging for it from the BPR, and why is he hiding the details for the membership until the last minute bum rush?

 

[Tweaker]

Imma put up a long shot...Cause DoUgIe is a total bum pumping, sperm burping, cum guzzler?

AMIRITE?

 

[JECKEL]

"If he doesn't need a "yes" from us, why is he begging for it from the BPR, and why is he hiding the details for the membership until the last minute bum rush?"

I am absolutely no fan of US Air's president or management ... however ...

I have read nothing saying HE is begging the BPR.
Your words. Your conclusion.

And HE is not hiding the details. The NDA the union agreed to is hiding the details.

 

[Full of LUV]

And HE is not hiding the details. The NDA the union agreed to is hiding the details.

Is that NDA "binding"???

 

[Turtle21]

"If he doesn't need a "yes" from us, why is he begging for it from the BPR, and why is he hiding the details for the membership until the last minute bum rush?"

I am absolutely no fan of US Air's president or management ... however ...

I have read nothing saying HE is begging the BPR.
Your words. Your conclusion.

And HE is not hiding the details. The NDA the union agreed to is hiding the details.

Who do you think wrote the terms of the NDA? And why did he need the BPR to agree to the MOU before he went to the UCC?

 

[JECKEL]

Well ... I think he assisted the lone shooter on the grassy noll.

 

[Carl S.]

USAPA is one vote away from going bye-bye and into the history book as the worst union ever....Parker threw USAPA a bone and is giving them a chance at defeat with honor....

 

[General Lee]

Hush genital. You know both sides are guilty of looking out for #1...just like every other pilot I've ever met.

Hush? YOU KNOW NOBODY ELSE HAS DISREGARDED A BINDING ARBITRATION AWARD. You know that. You hush. That side has NO honor. If you sign up for something, then follow through. What a bunch of jerks. Everyone should be ashamed of them. And how are the Westies guilty again? They followed through. They abided by the award. The only reason they didn't get to follow through fully is because they had fewer numbers than the East side. Tell me that is not true Cave. You can't.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[B-atch]

USAPA is one vote away from going bye-bye and into the history book as the worst union ever....Parker threw USAPA a bone and is giving them a chance at defeat with honor....

You ever heard the term "Trojan Horse"? Prepare to be enlightened....

 

[xanderman]

None of the "other parties" agreed to it yet...

APA has agreed to it. The board approved it 11-5. No need for membership ratification.

The NDA was written by AMR and the UCC. They are the one driving the bus. Believe me, they don't need USAPA to get the deal done. Inability to recognize one's position has always been US Air's Achilles Heel.




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[becket]

You ever heard the term "Trojan Horse"? Prepare to be enlightened....

The new fantasy, AMerican Pilots will vote for USAPA as their new CBA. Why? To pull the same "we'll just change our name and disregard prior agreements" switcharoo that has worked so well for the East Idiots. DREAM ON

 

[SXMp2c]

Management is offering the MOU. If USAPA votes it down, we stay at LOA 93 till completion of JCBA in 24 months.

Here, take 179/hour now or 124 for the next 2+ years

 

[eaglesview]

Management is offering the MOU. If USAPA votes it down, we stay at LOA 93 till completion of JCBA in 24 months.

Here, take 179/hour now or 124 for the next 2+ years

As if it were that simplistic.

 

[Carl S.]

What other parties have not agreed to the MOU? USAPA is spinning a story, take the bone or stay on LOA 93 rates for 24 months if the merger goes down. C2004 and LOA 93 and the TA are still in effect with what ever changes the MOU addresses ( hint...the NIC. is still the list if not addressed in the MOU) Hummel and Co. will soon be null and void...

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

What other parties have not agreed to the MOU? USAPA is spinning a story, take the bone or stay on LOA 93 rates for 24 months if the merger goes down. C2004 and LOA 93 and the TA are still in effect with what ever changes the MOU addresses ( hint...the NIC. is still the list if not addressed in the MOU) Hummel and Co. will soon be null and void...

Exactly Carl. I only hope the East realizes that voting down the MOU does not stop the merger. All it stops is them getting off LOA 93 wages and work rules until the single carrier status is finalized about 24 months later.
Come on folks, it's been 7 years, let's get a raise.

 

[Turtle21]

APA has agreed to it. The board approved it 11-5. No need for membership ratification.

The NDA was written by AMR and the UCC. They are the one driving the bus. Believe me, they don't need USAPA to get the deal done. Inability to recognize one's position has always been US Air's Achilles Heel.




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Everyone keeps saying that, but for some reason DUI keeps coming to USAPA to ask for a "yes" on his proposal.

And you are one to talk about "inability", using a fruit technology. Duh.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Parker knows how to make it look like he is bargaining in good faith with the Pulled Pork Politburo, so he cc's them the MOU. USAPA on the other hand, not so much. They set themselves up for the hammer to come down hard. They haven't even given the appearance of representing the west. Heck, they never even make a meeting with the PHX local pilots.