Another MOU agreed to at US Airways, if you believe it

[eaglesview]

Management is offering the MOU. If USAPA votes it down, we stay at LOA 93 till completion of JCBA in 24 months.

Here, take 179/hour now or 124 for the next 2+ years

As if it were that simplistic.

 

[Carl S.]

What other parties have not agreed to the MOU? USAPA is spinning a story, take the bone or stay on LOA 93 rates for 24 months if the merger goes down. C2004 and LOA 93 and the TA are still in effect with what ever changes the MOU addresses ( hint...the NIC. is still the list if not addressed in the MOU) Hummel and Co. will soon be null and void...

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

What other parties have not agreed to the MOU? USAPA is spinning a story, take the bone or stay on LOA 93 rates for 24 months if the merger goes down. C2004 and LOA 93 and the TA are still in effect with what ever changes the MOU addresses ( hint...the NIC. is still the list if not addressed in the MOU) Hummel and Co. will soon be null and void...

Exactly Carl. I only hope the East realizes that voting down the MOU does not stop the merger. All it stops is them getting off LOA 93 wages and work rules until the single carrier status is finalized about 24 months later.
Come on folks, it's been 7 years, let's get a raise.

 

[Turtle21]

APA has agreed to it. The board approved it 11-5. No need for membership ratification.

The NDA was written by AMR and the UCC. They are the one driving the bus. Believe me, they don't need USAPA to get the deal done. Inability to recognize one's position has always been US Air's Achilles Heel.




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Everyone keeps saying that, but for some reason DUI keeps coming to USAPA to ask for a "yes" on his proposal.

And you are one to talk about "inability", using a fruit technology. Duh.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Parker knows how to make it look like he is bargaining in good faith with the Pulled Pork Politburo, so he cc's them the MOU. USAPA on the other hand, not so much. They set themselves up for the hammer to come down hard. They haven't even given the appearance of representing the west. Heck, they never even make a meeting with the PHX local pilots.

 

[General Lee]

The East is gonna get pounded. Who will win out eventually? The Westies. There are tons of senior AA guys that will bail, along with plenty of old farts at the East. Throw in the NIC award which will legally have to be a part of this, and the Westies win hands down eventually, and USAPA is remembered as a skid mark at US.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Tweaker]

I would like to generously thank you fellows for refraining from quoting and reposting the dribble from the several FI trolls and goobers who have entered this thread.

A homebrew I pour for you!

 

[The Drizzle]

Pulled Pork Politburo

OK, that was funny.

 

[CavePilot]

Hush? YOU KNOW NOBODY ELSE HAS DISREGARDED A BINDING ARBITRATION AWARD. You know that. You hush. That side has NO honor. If you sign up for something, then follow through. What a bunch of jerks. Everyone should be ashamed of them. And how are the Westies guilty again? They followed through. They abided by the award. The only reason they didn't get to follow through fully is because they had fewer numbers than the East side. Tell me that is not true Cave. You can't.



Bye Bye---General Lee

First of all genitalia calm down. All I said was that pilot's on both sides of this and any merge/acquisition for that matter, will look out for themselves. Yes east took the low road, but it was the option they chose because they felt the ruling was unfair.

Don't feel the need to be the voice of the west. Everything that can ever be said about east/west has already been said. We can all just search the topic if any of us ever miss these ridiculous back and forths.

I now respectfully ask that you jam it in your a$$.

 

[cameltoad]

The reality is that this merger will be such a paradigm shift, no more USAir, no more USAPA, a whole new (huge) group of guys to consider. Right or wrong they are going to round file the NIC and start all over, defer to MCkaskill-Bond and reshuffle the deck. It's gonna be a big turd pie and we're all gonna have to take a bite!

 

[sean67]

The reality is that this merger will be such a paradigm shift, no more USAir, no more USAPA, a whole new (huge) group of guys to consider. Right or wrong they are going to round file the NIC and start all over, defer to MCkaskill-Bond and reshuffle the deck. It's gonna be a big turd pie and we're all gonna have to take a bite!

Agreed...But, what do I know....

 

[get2flyin]

The reality is that this merger will be such a paradigm shift, no more USAir, no more USAPA, a whole new (huge) group of guys to consider. Right or wrong they are going to round file the NIC and start all over, defer to MCkaskill-Bond and reshuffle the deck. It's gonna be a big turd pie and we're all gonna have to take a bite!

Swing and a miss.

 

[Turtle21]

The reality is that this merger will be such a paradigm shift, no more USAir, no more USAPA, a whole new (huge) group of guys to consider. Right or wrong they are going to round file the NIC and start all over, defer to MCkaskill-Bond and reshuffle the deck. It's gonna be a big turd pie and we're all gonna have to take a bite!

Agreed. A few ostriches will never pull their head out but dinner starts with the vote on the MOU. Big spoonfuls. A smorgasbord with good and bad, and a little extra bling all around will mitigate whatever ails you.

 

[abefly]

The reality is that this merger will be such a paradigm shift, no more USAir, no more USAPA, a whole new (huge) group of guys to consider. Right or wrong they are going to round file the NIC and start all over, defer to MCkaskill-Bond and reshuffle the deck. It's gonna be a big turd pie and we're all gonna have to take a bite!

How exactly do you round file the NIC? The NIC lives in the transition agreement between US east AND America West. The NIC will become active for the US Airways pilots once we are all on a Single contract.

We will all be on a single contract prior to any M/B arbitration. Hence the activation of the NIC. The NIC will then be the list the company sets forth to the arbitrator along with Americans seniority list.

The East still has the right to vote NO on any contract that will include the NIC. That is their option and I wouldn't be suprised if they do turn down a 60k dollar pay raise. However, once the NMB declares APA the barganing agent for all pilots. The East will be the minority an APA will vote a contract in for us all.

Now of course the transition agreement can be modified by the company and USAPA to include language other than the NIC for seniority. In my mind that would be great because of the damages that will be awarded to the west.

So basically there is no way around the NIC, unless of course USAPA can come up with a Legitimate Union Purpose for altering an agreed upon seniority list and an agreed upon transition agreement.

With or without the east the NIC will be the list. Get a contract now or wait 2 years. It's up to you. Is this clear yet? I'd be happy to explain over a beer.

 

[B-atch]

With or without the east the NIC will be the list. Get a contract now or wait 2 years. It's up to you. Is this clear yet? I'd be happy to explain over a beer.

Blah,blah,blah...Apparently you know more than the 9th CCOA and Jdg. Silver.
What, did you stay at a Holiday Inn Select last night??
Nic is a toxic TURD that would gum-up this merger. The APA doesn't want it...And whatever the APA wants, they will get.