And So It Begins

[pilotyip]

Just because they have a degree doesn't mean squat. I saw plenty of college graduates with a basket weaving degree. Show me an engineer, computer science, or accounting major that is hard pressed to find a good job. On top of that, graduating with a 2.0 GPA doesn't really stand out either.

There is something we agree upon

 

[nordo_2]

ha ha ha got'ya there, all have college degrees, admitted a couple from a place called Ohio State University that doesn't even rate with bumble Bee State.
BTW if the 150K job is so good how come the presently employed NJ guys aren't jumping at it? Jezze if enough did maybe these JUS NJ furloughees could get out of the on-demand bizz world and go back to a fantastic job.

Most SIC's would, if they could. Some already have. And love it. NJ SIC pilots are not the cream of the crop.

 

[CRAWDADDY]

I would never diminish the importance of what the NJ pilots have been able to accomplish in the past. And I fully support them in their efforts going forward. However, I don't think it benefits any of us for you to minimalize what the Flight Options pilots have been able to accomplish, or the hard fight we went through to get there.

Even across company lines we are all stronger when we stand together.

I would agree with all of this except you left out one very important thing. As our contract dragged out under 284 and Jon Wentz, you resisted unionizing because you were assured that EJA would have the best paid pilots for only one day and then your management would match them. Then, we got the POSTA and you went huh?

 

[Praetorian]

I would agree with all of this except you left out one very important thing. As our contract dragged out under 284 and Jon Wentz, you resisted unionizing because you were assured that EJA would have the best paid pilots for only one day and then your management would match them. Then, we got the POSTA and you went huh?

Yea I remember that. KR fed our pilots that line of BS and some of our pilots bought it and threw it in your faces. Indefensible behavior.

I would only submit that over the 10+ years since those events occured and after all our pilots had to go through to get our own CBA we are smarter than that now.

 

[BlueNose]

Meeting To Address Merging Flight Ops, Flexjet Pilots

Yea I remember that. KR fed our pilots that line of BS and some of our pilots bought it and threw it in your faces. Indefensible behavior.

I would only submit that over the 10+ years since those events occured and after all our pilots had to go through to get our own CBA we are smarter than that now.

Since it's in an AIN article, care to give us some idea of how the meetings progressed?


Meeting To Address Merging Flight Ops, Flexjet Pilots
AINalerts ? April 3, 2014
by Matt Thurber
April 3, 2014, 3:10 PM

A meeting between company officials and the Flight Options pilot union planned for today and tomorrow is intended to address issues arising from the consolidation of fractional-share operations Flexjet and Flight Options. Flight Options parent Directional Aviation Capital purchased Flexjet from Bombardier last December for about $195 million.

In a March 27 announcement sent to members of Teamsters Local 1108, which represents Flight Options pilots, the union noted that it had filed a "grievance alleging multiple violations of Section 1 of our collective bargaining agreement (CBA) and related letters of agreement." According to the union, the filing of the grievance allows it to "preserve our right to use the grievance and arbitration process in defense of pilots' rights under the CBA while we simultaneously meet with the company in a good-faith attempt to resolve all issues related to the consolidation of the two carriers."

The specific grievances alleged by the union include "consolidating certain Flight Options and Flexjet functions prior to exhausting the mandatory fence negotiation and arbitration procedures set forth in the CBA and reducing positions and slowing growth at Flight Options through subcontracting."

 

[Praetorian]

Since it's in an AIN article, care to give us some idea of how the meetings progressed?


Meeting To Address Merging Flight Ops, Flexjet Pilots
AINalerts ? April 3, 2014
by Matt Thurber
April 3, 2014, 3:10 PM

A meeting between company officials and the Flight Options pilot union planned for today and tomorrow is intended to address issues arising from the consolidation of fractional-share operations Flexjet and Flight Options. Flight Options parent Directional Aviation Capital purchased Flexjet from Bombardier last December for about $195 million.

In a March 27 announcement sent to members of Teamsters Local 1108, which represents Flight Options pilots, the union noted that it had filed a "grievance alleging multiple violations of Section 1 of our collective bargaining agreement (CBA) and related letters of agreement." According to the union, the filing of the grievance allows it to "preserve our right to use the grievance and arbitration process in defense of pilots' rights under the CBA while we simultaneously meet with the company in a good-faith attempt to resolve all issues related to the consolidation of the two carriers."

The specific grievances alleged by the union include "consolidating certain Flight Options and Flexjet functions prior to exhausting the mandatory fence negotiation and arbitration procedures set forth in the CBA and reducing positions and slowing growth at Flight Options through subcontracting."

Read the AIN piece more carefully brother. They simply reported what was in the unions' grievance and associated announcement.

I'm sure someone from the union will give us a report on what happened at the meeting soon.

 

[gret]

Read the AIN piece more carefully brother. They simply reported what was in the unions' grievance and associated announcement.

I'm sure someone from the union will give us a report on what happened at the meeting soon.

Thanks for helpful comment.

Bluenose asked a legit question and it appears you don't know the answer. Just say so....

Two days worth of meetings and nothing to report?

 

[GooseHZ]

Grey the meetings just ended. Have some patience.

 

[gret]

Grey the meetings just ended. Have some patience.

Will do...

 

[GooseHZ]

Gret....not gray.....dang auto correct.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I'm sure someone from the union will give us a report on what happened at the meeting soon.

In my 3-1/2 years of union membership, I have found my union's leadership to be only SLIGHTLY more forthcoming with information than my company's leadership....

Your actual mileage may vary.

Jusssssssss sayin'

 

[LAZYB]

In my 3-1/2 years of union membership, I have found my union's leadership to be only SLIGHTLY more forthcoming with information than my company's leadership....

Your actual mileage may vary.

Jusssssssss sayin'

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. :smash:

 

[GooseHZ]

Hey! Don't hijack a Net jet thread.....Their feelings will be hurt.

 

[OPECJet]

Hey! Don't hijack a Net jet thread.....Their feelings will be hurt.

Might be the first in Flightinfo history seeing a NJA thread get hijacked....

 

[pilotyip]

Might be the first in Flightinfo history seeing a NJA thread get hijacked....

how would one know it had been hijacked?