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I still don't see it happening unless someone else pulls the trigger first. Yes, Anderson is calling a lot of his old buddies from his NWA days, but a lot of them haven't been at NWA in a while, like this latest guy--who has had 2 other jobs in the meantime. He worked at Krispy Kreme for a year, and then Greyhound for 4 years, turning it around too. It is not like he is at NWA now, and then going to Delta. If Anderson knew him at NWA and trusted him, then maybe he could do a good job for Anderson now at DL.

If someone else starts the dominos falling, then yes, I bet DL will approach NWA for an acquistion. I don't really see them doing it first, and Parker and Tilton seem to want to do it first, maybe together.


Bye Bye--General Lee


Looks like the itchy trigger might be in ATL on Virginia Ave after all. Don't forget JoKo's replacement "turned" around Greyhound (before it unturned around) by slashing 1/3 of the work force.

Anyone who thinks a merger between anyone will not impact jobs has their head in the sand.
 
Actually, I believe there will be many furloughs. In my opinion all of which will come from the regional side and none from the mainline.

You have to realize Delta has about 3000 daily flights on regional jets all of which cost substantially more per seat mile to operate than any mainline aircraft. Oil at these prices makes flying the rj's even more expensive.

I think you'll see this as an opportunity to upguage a number of the rj routes with the excess mainline aircraft from any route duplication that is dropped during the divestiture process.

If I were flying at any of the regionals supporting Delta or whoever we merge with I would be preparing for a very loud flushing sound....
 
I love how everybody's figured out what's gonna happen. (I'm as guilty as the next guy.)

Go to work, do a good job, put as much money in the bank as possible and update your logbooks if you're on the bottom. Most importantly, relax and quit worrying about something none of us have any control over.*

*Short of burn-down-the-house labor unrest, which is a vague possibility.
 
General Lee said:
The US/AWA merger was a seamless merger, route wise and hub wise. Seniority wise, it did not work, but binding arbitration was applied and the East guys turned into babies. The merger itself was a success, the babies of the East have created a disaster....
Bye Bye--General Lee
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He he he he. I agree, I also dig the delivery. Sadly though, as a participant of said disaster its really not all that funny ultimately.
 
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DAL-NWA
UAL-NWA
DAL-UAL


If the mother is ugly and the father is ugly. I think we know how the baby is gonna turn out.
 
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Benjamin Dover said:
I still don't see it happening unless someone else pulls the trigger first. Yes, Anderson is calling a lot of his old buddies from his NWA days, but a lot of them haven't been at NWA in a while, like this latest guy--who has had 2 other jobs in the meantime. He worked at Krispy Kreme for a year, and then Greyhound for 4 years, turning it around too. It is not like he is at NWA now, and then going to Delta. If Anderson knew him at NWA and trusted him, then maybe he could do a good job for Anderson now at DL.

If someone else starts the dominos falling, then yes, I bet DL will approach NWA for an acquistion. I don't really see them doing it first, and Parker and Tilton seem to want to do it first, maybe together.


Bye Bye--General Lee


Looks like the itchy trigger might be in ATL on Virginia Ave after all. Don't forget JoKo's replacement "turned" around Greyhound (before it unturned around) by slashing 1/3 of the work force.

Anyone who thinks a merger between anyone will not impact jobs has their head in the sand.
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Where are we expanding right now? INTL side, and the regional side is shrinking. Right now we can't hire enough 767ER FOs to fill our upcoming Summer schedule, and all of those new cities are not served by NWA or UAL. The AWA and USAir merger was seamless with no hub overlap, and a NWA and DL merger would be darn close. (better than UAL/DL) Those DC9s that could be parked, could be replaced with the 110 MD90s that are waiting for us----and they are newer and probably could be a good stopgap for 10 years until we could replace them with new Boeings. It could happen....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
iflyhigh72 said:
DAL-NWA
UAL-NWA
DAL-UAL


If the mother is ugly and the father is ugly. I think we know how the baby is gonna turn out.
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A DL and NWA combo will be a power house. We will hit Asia, Europe, Africa, and South America---all with tons of service. Our domestic hubs will be extensive, and the feed potential to those higher yield fares for businessmen will be huge.


So, how will Airtran and Southwest look together? A corndog 717? That will be great to see.... Maybe it will serve LBB from ATL nonstop?


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General Lee said:
A DL and NWA combo will be a power house. We will hit Asia, Europe, Africa, and South America---all with tons of service. Our domestic hubs will be extensive, and the feed potential to those higher yield fares for businessmen will be huge.


So, how will Airtran and Southwest look together? A corndog 717? That will be great to see.... Maybe it will serve LBB from ATL nonstop?


Bye Bye--General Lee
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Maybe they should paint them green...like the money that they are making. You guys should stick with red...like the money you will hemorage (especially in the 1st quarter). Oh, sorry, I just remembered, it's an "operating loss." Those aren't bad.
 
General, where can you guys get your hands on 110 MD-90s? I didn't realize that there were that many out there.
 
PCL_128 said:
General, where can you guys get your hands on 110 MD-90s? I didn't realize that there were that many out there.
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Rumor has it that there are that many out there, and all are being replaced by A320 type aircraft. The airlines that currently fly them are JAS (Japan Air System), China Northern, China Southern, Saudi, and Iberia. There are a few more that fly for some charters in Europe, but the ones above are all ready to be replaced. What I have heard is that before this merger talk started up again, we were looking to possibly get our hands on all of them, for the right price. Supposedly we have already looked at some from Japan and China. We have an MD90 sim, we have FTDs, and we already know how to fix them. Someone mentioned they were about $9 million each including engines. That's what I have heard......could be just rumor though.....

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Tanker Clown said:
Maybe they should paint them green...like the money that they are making. You guys should stick with red...like the money you will hemorage (especially in the 1st quarter). Oh, sorry, I just remembered, it's an "operating loss." Those aren't bad.
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During the slow Winter quarter, it is not unexpected, especially with high fuel prices. If you cannot understand that, then you are clueless. Every year there is a cycle, with the Summer and Spring quarters always bringing in more profits. We had a great Summer last year, with profits over $250 million for that quarter. When oil prices climb uncontrollably during the slow season, then I can understand a loss. I guess you can't. Enjoy that desk job sarge.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General Lee said:
Rumor has it that there are that many out there, and all are being replaced by A320 type aircraft. The airlines that currently fly them are JAS (Japan Air System), China Northern, China Southern, Saudi, and Iberia. There are a few more that fly for some charters in Europe, but the ones above are all ready to be replaced. What I have heard is that before this merger talk started up again, we were looking to possibly get our hands on all of them, for the right price. Supposedly we have already looked at some from Japan and China. We have an MD90 sim, we have FTDs, and we already know how to fix them. Someone mentioned they were about $9 million each including engines. That's what I have heard......could be just rumor though.....

Bye Bye--General Lee
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Pretty similar to a DC-9 I suppose....Two throttles, a landing gear lever,...I got it !!!

Now Gen, will we NWA'ers get a 10% RAISE?
....THATS THE BIG QUESTION ?

Or will we just have to quietly go back to wearing our hats ?
 
General Lee said:
During the slow Winter quarter, it is not unexpected, especially with high fuel prices. If you cannot understand that, then you are clueless. Every year there is a cycle, with the Summer and Spring quarters always bringing in more profits. We had a great Summer last year, with profits over $250 million for that quarter. When oil prices climb uncontrollably during the slow season, then I can understand a loss. I guess you can't. Enjoy that desk job sarge.

Bye Bye--General Lee
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Southwest and AirTran must not operate during the "slow Winter quarter." They must need international routes if they want awsome winter quarters like Delta.
 
jetflier said:
Pretty similar to a DC-9 I suppose....Two throttles, a landing gear lever,...I got it !!!

Now Gen, will we NWA'ers get a 10% RAISE?
....THATS THE BIG QUESTION ?

Or will we just have to quietly go back to wearing our hats ?
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Knowing the Delta guys, they will give up 10% and come down to the NWA guys. But, the NWA guys will need to wear the double breasted coat...I hear it was quite fashionable in '93.
 
You know you're making fun of Breast Cancer Awareness by using that plane in your avatar, Tanker Clown?
 

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