Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:18:06 -0600
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Subject: Re: ! APA Proposal for Eagle Seniority List Merge with AA
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As promised, here is the AA counter proposal to the APA "one airline"
proposal that has been withheld from the membership as part of an
APA negotiations BLACKOUT.
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AA Counterproposal
AA – APA Negotiations
January 15, 2003
Scope
Commuter Flying
This proposal is contingent on:
· APA achieving voluntary agreement with ALPA to:
· assume commuter flying currently covered by the
Eagle Scope clause and
· assume representation of pilots performing owned
commuter flying.
In addition, given our current cost/revenue environment,
we must continue to craft solutions that are at least
net cost neutral to the combined entities.
Replace Section 1 .D. Commuter Flying:
· Establish a Commuter Flying Supplement
· Commuter Supplement will contain provisions for
commuter operations based on the current Eagle
Agreement as follows:
¨ Section 2 – Definitions
¨ Section 3 – Compensation
¨ Section 4 – New Hires
¨ Section 5 – Expenses Away from Domicile
¨ Section 6 – Uniforms
¨ Section 7 – Moving Expenses
¨ Section 8 – Vacation
¨ Section 9 – Sick Leave
¨ Section 10 – Hours of Service
¨ Section 11 – Scheduling
¨ Section 13 – Loss of Seniority (5 year retention
of recall rights)
¨ Section 14 – Probation
¨ Section 15 – Filling of Vacancies
¨ Section 16 – Furlough Pay (need to address multiple
furloughs)
¨ Section 17 – Training
¨ Section 18 – Leave of Absence (Flight Pay Loss
over-ride only)
¨ Section 19 – Physical Standards
¨ Section 22 – Management Rights
¨ Section 24 – Check Airmen Pay
¨ Section 25 – Check Airmen
¨ Section 26 – Maintenance Test Pilots
¨ Section 28 – Retirement and Insurance
¨ Section 29 – General
¨ Letter 1 – Interest Arbitration
¨ Letter 2 – No Strike No Lockout
¨ Letter 4 – Monthly Bonus Captains & First Officers
¨ Letter 6 – Ground School Instructor, AETC
¨ Letter 7 – Grandfathered First Officers
¨ Letter 9 – 60-70 Seat Turbojet Captain Pay
¨ Letter 13 – ASAP
¨ Letter 14 – Flight Time Donations
¨ Letter 15 – SJU Training Holidays
¨ Letter 16 – Geographic Emergency-Aircraft Repositioning
¨ Letter 17 – SJU 401(k)
¨ Letter 18 – Age 60 AETC Pilots
¨ Letter 19 – Executive Airlines Line IOE Check Airmen Compensation
¨ Letter 20 – Understanding Section 15.I.1 and 17.A.1.
¨ Letter 21 – Letter of Understanding, Section 11 (Scheduling)
¨ Letter 22 – Letter of Understanding, Section 12.H (Reserve)
¨ Letter 23 – Awarding of Unbid Lines
¨ Letter 25 – D7 Legality removals for Training – Section 3.J.1.
¨ Letter 26 – Annual Vacation Bids Section 8.C.2
¨ Letter 28 – Reserve System - Section 12
¨ Letter 29 – Proffer to Displace - Section 15.K. and 15.L.
¨ Letter 30 – Supplemental EMJ Turbojet Provisions
¨ Letter 34 – Effective date and Withholding from Vacancy
¨ Letter 35 – Reassignment – Midsequence
¨ Letter 36 – Ground and Test Aircraft Operations, Section 3.1.
¨ Letter 37 – Interest Arbitration Supplemental Agreement
(Extensions and Junior Manning Conditions and
Limitations
¨ Letter 39 - IAI Adjustment as of January 1, 2001
· The Commuter Supplement may be amended on only a limited basis.
¨ The Commuter Supplement will not be amendable until October 31,
2013, except as provided below:
* The Commuter Supplement may be modified in 2004, 2008,
2012 by either party submitting up to five single, separate,
and specific proposed changes. If the parties are unable to
agree on the changes, Interest Arbitration will resolve
the remaining issues.
· Restrictions to owned Commuter Operations under the Commuter
Supplement:
· Hull Count tied to mainline
------------ -------------------- --------------------
AA Aircraft RJ’s Maximum Number RJ’s
------------ -------------------- --------------------
<679 50% of AA Aircraft 340
680-699 51% 346-356
700-719 52% 364-374
720-739 53% 382-392
740-759 54% 400-410
760-799 55% 418-439
800 or more 56% 448 -
------------ -------------------- --------------------
Turboprops would be in addition to these numbers.
· Entry for Pilots:
· New hire pilots may enter a vacancy in either the
Commuter Supplement or mainline.
· New hire vacancies at mainline filled from Commuter
Supplement at a minimum ratio of 1:2 until September 2007
(Supp W expires in September 2007). Minimum 1:3 September
2007 to October 2013 (ratio changed due to increase in
number of eligible pilots - turboprop CA’s).
· Pilots hired into Commuter Supplement get mainline
seniority rights at CA upgrade.
o (Discuss - Lock-in for Turboprop CA of 24 months
like CJ).
o (Discuss – are FO on the list without a number?
How to handle?)
· Can’t exercise rights until they enter mainline on new hire
vacancy. (Can’t displace to mainline, if they have not
been there.)
· LOS for pension/pay begins upon entry into the mainline.
· Current AE pilots become AA Commuter Supplement pilots.
Seniority issues worked out between APA and ALPA,
however, we understand that the APA’s proposal would
place current AE pilots without a seniority number on
the Seniority List below all current AA pilots.
· Mainline pilots cannot bid to Commuter supplement positions.
· Furlough Provisions
· Mainline pilots who are furloughed after 12/31/03, may, at
their option, displace into Commuter Supplement Captain
positions, seniority permitting, except in event of force
majeure conditions.
o Discuss - Force Majeure bid(s) and train to final place
· Any pilot furloughed from the mainline or displaced into
the Commuter Supplement has mainline recall rights.
· Any pilot furloughed out of the Commuter Supplement has
recall rights back to the Commuter Supplement.
· Current mainline furloughees have access to Commuter
Supplement vacancies after all AE furloughees have been
recalled.
· Pilots must have the minimum qualifications required by the
Eagle Flight Manual Part 1 to displace into a Commuter
Supplement Captain position.
· Commuter Supplement pilots may not access any mainline hiring
vacancies until all current furloughees have returned to
mainline flying.
· Non owned commuters relationships may continue to exist, but
with greater restrictions than owned.
¨ The Commuter Supplement applies only to owned commuters. Rules
for non-owned commuters would continue to be in a revised
Section 1.D.:
* Only aircraft certificated for less than 60 seats can be
utilized except that a non-owned commuter can operate
turboprop aircraft with less than 70 seats. (Need to
address 70 seaters currently/planned at Eagle in the event
of divestiture)
* ?? % of Commuter jet operations must be into or out of
DFW,ORD, MIA, JFK, SFO, LAX, LGA, SJU, STL
· If departures scheduled by the Company at another
airport exceeds 70 per day (average over 12 month
period), that airport will be added, except that commuter
jet departures using commuter slots at slot controlled
airports will not be counted.
* No non-owned Commuter flying between these airports
except to accommodate revenue flights in support of
maintenance activity.
* Based on status of divestiture commuters, on a pro-rata basis,
reduced by percentage divestiture, with an allowance for
existing non-owned which allows for some growth:
· Maximum limit of xx% of Company ASM's
· Allow for divestiture of the Commuter Operations, in accordance
with the current Eagle divestiture provisions (account for 70
seaters currently/planned at Eagle in event of divestiture)
· Only commuter operations will be operated under the Commuter
Supplement. Commuter Operations Definition:
· All operations with aircraft certificated (world-wide) for
seats of 70 or less
· The Company retains discretion to design and/or brand its products.
· Seniority integration will inevitably create discord; we must
find ways to mitigate/offset so that there is minimal impact on
the employees and the operation.
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Reply-To: APA Challenge & Response
Sender: APA Challenge & Response
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ! APA Proposal for Eagle Seniority List Merge with AA
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
As promised, here is the AA counter proposal to the APA "one airline"
proposal that has been withheld from the membership as part of an
APA negotiations BLACKOUT.
[BEST VIEWED IN FIXED-PITCH]
--
AA Counterproposal
AA – APA Negotiations
January 15, 2003
Scope
Commuter Flying
This proposal is contingent on:
· APA achieving voluntary agreement with ALPA to:
· assume commuter flying currently covered by the
Eagle Scope clause and
· assume representation of pilots performing owned
commuter flying.
In addition, given our current cost/revenue environment,
we must continue to craft solutions that are at least
net cost neutral to the combined entities.
Replace Section 1 .D. Commuter Flying:
· Establish a Commuter Flying Supplement
· Commuter Supplement will contain provisions for
commuter operations based on the current Eagle
Agreement as follows:
¨ Section 2 – Definitions
¨ Section 3 – Compensation
¨ Section 4 – New Hires
¨ Section 5 – Expenses Away from Domicile
¨ Section 6 – Uniforms
¨ Section 7 – Moving Expenses
¨ Section 8 – Vacation
¨ Section 9 – Sick Leave
¨ Section 10 – Hours of Service
¨ Section 11 – Scheduling
¨ Section 13 – Loss of Seniority (5 year retention
of recall rights)
¨ Section 14 – Probation
¨ Section 15 – Filling of Vacancies
¨ Section 16 – Furlough Pay (need to address multiple
furloughs)
¨ Section 17 – Training
¨ Section 18 – Leave of Absence (Flight Pay Loss
over-ride only)
¨ Section 19 – Physical Standards
¨ Section 22 – Management Rights
¨ Section 24 – Check Airmen Pay
¨ Section 25 – Check Airmen
¨ Section 26 – Maintenance Test Pilots
¨ Section 28 – Retirement and Insurance
¨ Section 29 – General
¨ Letter 1 – Interest Arbitration
¨ Letter 2 – No Strike No Lockout
¨ Letter 4 – Monthly Bonus Captains & First Officers
¨ Letter 6 – Ground School Instructor, AETC
¨ Letter 7 – Grandfathered First Officers
¨ Letter 9 – 60-70 Seat Turbojet Captain Pay
¨ Letter 13 – ASAP
¨ Letter 14 – Flight Time Donations
¨ Letter 15 – SJU Training Holidays
¨ Letter 16 – Geographic Emergency-Aircraft Repositioning
¨ Letter 17 – SJU 401(k)
¨ Letter 18 – Age 60 AETC Pilots
¨ Letter 19 – Executive Airlines Line IOE Check Airmen Compensation
¨ Letter 20 – Understanding Section 15.I.1 and 17.A.1.
¨ Letter 21 – Letter of Understanding, Section 11 (Scheduling)
¨ Letter 22 – Letter of Understanding, Section 12.H (Reserve)
¨ Letter 23 – Awarding of Unbid Lines
¨ Letter 25 – D7 Legality removals for Training – Section 3.J.1.
¨ Letter 26 – Annual Vacation Bids Section 8.C.2
¨ Letter 28 – Reserve System - Section 12
¨ Letter 29 – Proffer to Displace - Section 15.K. and 15.L.
¨ Letter 30 – Supplemental EMJ Turbojet Provisions
¨ Letter 34 – Effective date and Withholding from Vacancy
¨ Letter 35 – Reassignment – Midsequence
¨ Letter 36 – Ground and Test Aircraft Operations, Section 3.1.
¨ Letter 37 – Interest Arbitration Supplemental Agreement
(Extensions and Junior Manning Conditions and
Limitations
¨ Letter 39 - IAI Adjustment as of January 1, 2001
· The Commuter Supplement may be amended on only a limited basis.
¨ The Commuter Supplement will not be amendable until October 31,
2013, except as provided below:
* The Commuter Supplement may be modified in 2004, 2008,
2012 by either party submitting up to five single, separate,
and specific proposed changes. If the parties are unable to
agree on the changes, Interest Arbitration will resolve
the remaining issues.
· Restrictions to owned Commuter Operations under the Commuter
Supplement:
· Hull Count tied to mainline
------------ -------------------- --------------------
AA Aircraft RJ’s Maximum Number RJ’s
------------ -------------------- --------------------
<679 50% of AA Aircraft 340
680-699 51% 346-356
700-719 52% 364-374
720-739 53% 382-392
740-759 54% 400-410
760-799 55% 418-439
800 or more 56% 448 -
------------ -------------------- --------------------
Turboprops would be in addition to these numbers.
· Entry for Pilots:
· New hire pilots may enter a vacancy in either the
Commuter Supplement or mainline.
· New hire vacancies at mainline filled from Commuter
Supplement at a minimum ratio of 1:2 until September 2007
(Supp W expires in September 2007). Minimum 1:3 September
2007 to October 2013 (ratio changed due to increase in
number of eligible pilots - turboprop CA’s).
· Pilots hired into Commuter Supplement get mainline
seniority rights at CA upgrade.
o (Discuss - Lock-in for Turboprop CA of 24 months
like CJ).
o (Discuss – are FO on the list without a number?
How to handle?)
· Can’t exercise rights until they enter mainline on new hire
vacancy. (Can’t displace to mainline, if they have not
been there.)
· LOS for pension/pay begins upon entry into the mainline.
· Current AE pilots become AA Commuter Supplement pilots.
Seniority issues worked out between APA and ALPA,
however, we understand that the APA’s proposal would
place current AE pilots without a seniority number on
the Seniority List below all current AA pilots.
· Mainline pilots cannot bid to Commuter supplement positions.
· Furlough Provisions
· Mainline pilots who are furloughed after 12/31/03, may, at
their option, displace into Commuter Supplement Captain
positions, seniority permitting, except in event of force
majeure conditions.
o Discuss - Force Majeure bid(s) and train to final place
· Any pilot furloughed from the mainline or displaced into
the Commuter Supplement has mainline recall rights.
· Any pilot furloughed out of the Commuter Supplement has
recall rights back to the Commuter Supplement.
· Current mainline furloughees have access to Commuter
Supplement vacancies after all AE furloughees have been
recalled.
· Pilots must have the minimum qualifications required by the
Eagle Flight Manual Part 1 to displace into a Commuter
Supplement Captain position.
· Commuter Supplement pilots may not access any mainline hiring
vacancies until all current furloughees have returned to
mainline flying.
· Non owned commuters relationships may continue to exist, but
with greater restrictions than owned.
¨ The Commuter Supplement applies only to owned commuters. Rules
for non-owned commuters would continue to be in a revised
Section 1.D.:
* Only aircraft certificated for less than 60 seats can be
utilized except that a non-owned commuter can operate
turboprop aircraft with less than 70 seats. (Need to
address 70 seaters currently/planned at Eagle in the event
of divestiture)
* ?? % of Commuter jet operations must be into or out of
DFW,ORD, MIA, JFK, SFO, LAX, LGA, SJU, STL
· If departures scheduled by the Company at another
airport exceeds 70 per day (average over 12 month
period), that airport will be added, except that commuter
jet departures using commuter slots at slot controlled
airports will not be counted.
* No non-owned Commuter flying between these airports
except to accommodate revenue flights in support of
maintenance activity.
* Based on status of divestiture commuters, on a pro-rata basis,
reduced by percentage divestiture, with an allowance for
existing non-owned which allows for some growth:
· Maximum limit of xx% of Company ASM's
· Allow for divestiture of the Commuter Operations, in accordance
with the current Eagle divestiture provisions (account for 70
seaters currently/planned at Eagle in event of divestiture)
· Only commuter operations will be operated under the Commuter
Supplement. Commuter Operations Definition:
· All operations with aircraft certificated (world-wide) for
seats of 70 or less
· The Company retains discretion to design and/or brand its products.
· Seniority integration will inevitably create discord; we must
find ways to mitigate/offset so that there is minimal impact on
the employees and the operation.
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